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TopicBiscuit watches, briefly reviews, and eventually ranks the MCU *spoilers*
Mr_Biscuit
06/23/18 10:21:15 AM
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sellerdore posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
, just once or twice I'd like if Marvel would just let me feel something without undercutting it.

Funny you say this -- there was a video that came out around the time of Wonder Woman last year that compared WW's emotional sincerity to the tendency of MCU movies to undercut the emotional.

Here's the video (no spoilers for MCU, since it covers movies you've already seen, but some spoilers for a few other superhero movies, esp. Wonder Woman)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-QhdzQo66o" data-time="

I'm about halfway through this video and so far I mostly agree. I think he's a little harsh by going after Guardians for "bathos" when that's almost the point, though as I've said ITT it was a little egregious a few times even in those movies. Don't necessarily agree with the airport fight in Civil War, Tony wisecracks through the pain all the time so that felt in character.

That said, the general gist is definitely what I'm getting at -- I also hated the scene in Dr. Strange he pointed out and I think he has an interesting point about how it feels like the movie is afraid to ask you to take it seriously. To a degree that's a good thing, these are funny and self-aware and they need to be. But like I said about GotG 1 + 2, this effect is most often at its best when your laugh lines and your heartfelt moments are separate entities; there have only been a few "bathos moments" across the whole MCU that I thought were particularly funny, and they were mostly cathartic in nature (see: "puny god," etc).

I think you can be lighthearted and laugh at yourself for the silly fun we're having AND also have some moments that are meant to hit home. MCU is usually pretty successful at this but it does bug me when they're not.

EDIT: Yup, finished the video and same thoughts -- agreement in principle but think he's a little harsh. Overall I do think there's a line between "not taking ourselves too seriously" and "this whole movie feels like a parody" and it's an interesting territory to navigate.
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