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TopicWhy is the president kidnapping children?
Truth_Decay
06/20/18 6:38:37 PM
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And apparently it wasn't all that well executed because [human trafficking] was still being done in spades.


"In spades" is dubious, at best. But any human trafficking at all is unacceptable. The problem is that Trump implemented a blanket policy. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor offense. Very minor. It's like detaining every person who gets a parking ticket and taking their kids away just to try and catch one person who committed a hit-and-run and killed somebody.

What's funny is that there is, or was at one time not sure if it's still a thing, an expedited process for handling families. If we could detain families together, there is a streamlined process for either vetting or deporting them...


Again, detaining families together can present potential problems when it comes to trafficking. Separating them makes sense. Why they don't have an expedited process for families, or why they can't seem to get their shit together and do it within a few days for each family, I don't know. That needs to be resolved.

The issue with detaining families is that it's illegal to detain the children. I don't profess to have a better solution, but the one proposed by Trump is unlawful and immoral.

As for electronic monitoring, how is that supposed to work? Electronic monitoring for parolees and the like works because the people who are on it are relatively (at least compared to an immigrant) stable. They have a home, which is used for the homepoint for the device. They have a set schedule/location that they'll be in. And in terms of scope, it's relatively few compared to the amount of parole officers to monitor them.

You can't do that on the scale of immigrants. More so because there's virtually no reason for them not to just destroy the device and fuck off.

This is true. I didn't propose this as the only sensible solution. Only to point out that there are other solutions that don't violate human rights and have the US incarcerating toddlers.

My only problems with this whole situation are the conditions these people have to live in, and the speed at which they're processing them. Otherwise I don't consider this a human rights violation.

Again, even if they're only being separated for a couple of days, that is a gross violation of human rights. If their only crime is crossing the border illegally, removing their children is a disgusting overreach of authority.
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