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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 181: We Are Seeking (An) Asylum
red sox 777
06/20/18 12:46:11 AM
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xp1337 posted...
I dunno, I think you can be outraged at both the policy and his cowardly attempts to have it both ways by trying to pin the blame on the Democrats.

There's a reason I explicitly stated I didn't want to get into the discussion you had the other day with a bunch of people about his Germany crime statistic lie:

1. It was happening concurrently with the audio coming out and that issue was immeasurably more important to me.
2. It just didn't seem worth an argument over. Yes, he is lying about it. Yes, it further evidence in the "he's a racist" pile. Neither of those things was new information. Things to cite in future discussions regarding that, sure.
3. tbqh i found your position in that argument untenable


Your reaction to that tweet sounds eminently reasonable. Attacking that tweet can only help Trump. Among Trump statements, it is quite innocuous in that there is an entirely plausible way to read it which would render it as not a lie at all, just imprecise (you can disagree about that if you want, I really don't want to argue about it). Many Trump statements are ridiculous on their face and some of his actions are terrifying. Unlike the statements, the actions are not always bad or outrageous, and the ones that are should be targeted.

If there were more liberals who publicly condemned the travel ban and the separation policy, while talking about how tariffs, say, might be good, they'd get a lot more attention from the public. Now, if you are someone who disagrees with Trump on every single action - and you would even if a different person had implemented the same policies - guess what? You are very very far from the center American voter. If you want to win, the best thing you can do is keep quiet and let others do the talking who can do a better job of appealing to swing voters.
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