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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 180: The Summit All Fears
red sox 777 06/12/18 9:26:12 PM #65:	Icehawk posted... red sox 777 posted... Icehawk posted... How does it dictate their choice of president? The logic in sanctioning Trump businesses is that Trump doesn't care about how trade wars affect every day Americans. The only thing he cares about is himself. Hurting Trump instead of actual people is the most effective way to get through to him. He is only vulnerable to this because he lied, as always, and did not divest from his businesses. Getting through to Trump is not the important thing. Getting through to the American people is the important thing. And if other countries are really going to trade 100 billion in tariffs on them for 10 million in tariffs on Trump businesses, that's a big win for Americans. It's basically putting in tariffs without any retaliation. After "negotiating" a deal that good, Trump could start a donation site and get back more than he lost from the sanctions from Americans happy about what a great job he did renegotiating our trade deals. I agree that they would have to put the trump tariffs on top of other tariffs. But getting through to trump is the important thing. He is the one with this power. The American people aren't going to feel any sympathy for trump if he gets personally sanctioned. It is his own damn fault. Trump is not the one with the power. The American people are. This is like offering a lawyer a bribe to sell out his client. Even if you succeed (Trump backs down), his client will just fire him and get a different lawyer who won't be bought. And then you'll get bigger tariffs, borne out of anger as much as desire for gain. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:903121852] in Politics C... [t:76701362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Icehawk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Icehawk posted...</cite> <quote>How does it dictate their choice of president? The logic in sanctioning Trump businesses is that Trump doesn't care about how trade wars affect every day Americans. The only thing he cares about is himself. Hurting Trump instead of actual people is the most effective way to get through to him. He is only vulnerable to this because he lied, as always, and did not divest from his businesses.</quote> Getting through to Trump is not the important thing. Getting through to the American people is the important thing. And if other countries are really going to trade 100 billion in tariffs on them for 10 million in tariffs on Trump businesses, that's a big win for Americans. It's basically putting in tariffs without any retaliation. After "negotiating" a deal that good, Trump could start a donation site and get back more than he lost from the sanctions from Americans happy about what a great job he did renegotiating our trade deals.</quote> I agree that they would have to put the trump tariffs on top of other tariffs. But getting through to trump is the important thing. He is the one with this power. The American people aren't going to feel any sympathy for trump if he gets personally sanctioned. It is his own damn fault.</quote> Trump is not the one with the power. The American people are. This is like offering a lawyer a bribe to sell out his client. Even if you succeed (Trump backs down), his client will just fire him and get a different lawyer who won't be bought. And then you'll get bigger tariffs, borne out of anger as much as desire for gain. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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