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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 178: Last Topic Wasn't Fair to Flair [POLITICS]
Corrik
05/31/18 8:03:14 AM
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Person X - In a perfect world, it would give that celebrity more credibility for their platform. But, lets just be honest here: if it had been ANYONE else with Trump, we probably wouldnt be talking about it, but because its her, we cant take her or Trump seriously.

Person Z - I think any celebrity going on about any policy that has zero to do with their lifestyle is silly and self-serving. I can't take a Hollywood idiot seriously, talking about how awful guns are while they are protected by huge fenced in communities and armed guards, either, but I'm supposed to accept that they have a voice on the matter and shut my own mouth.

Person X - We dont need to stay silent, though. There are very few celebrities who relate to some of the policies they promote. As much as I cant stand her, Taylor Swift is a significant figure for the #metoo #timesup movement because she was a victim of sexual assault. The half of a drop of respect I have for her is the fact she used her experience and her celebrity status to bring about awareness.

Person Z - Again, experience doesn't mean anything. Are only gay celebrities allowed to speak out about gay issues? Are only women who had abortions allowed to speak about abortion issues? Are only female celebrities allowed to discuss female issues? All I'm saying is that is what Kardashian is doing...using her celebrity to try and bring awareness to a cause and get a woman out of prison. The "quality" of the celebrity doing the diplomacy is meaningless.

Person X - I disagree. The quality matters.

Me - I think I agree loosely with both of you. You cannot fully understand something unless you go through it yourself. For example, if you were never raped then you can never fully understand the pain, dehumanization, or repercussions of such an act. No matter how much you empathize, research, or wish to understand. So, in that way, I do agree with Person X.

However on the other end, I do not think this disqualifies someone from having valid, well-meaning, or even correct opinions on the matter. While Kim K is a bit of probably out of touch with real society do to her lifestyle, I cannot definitively say she is not properly aware of the situation and has well-meaning and good opinions regarding the matter. If she is using her status to bring voice to those who have been through it, what does it hurt? Maybe she is furthering the cause.

Remember it was not too long ago that a Conservative pundit on FoxNews took a lot of flak for saying...

"It's always unwise to seek political advice from someone who gets paid $100 million a year to bounce a ball," she said. "Keep the political comments to yourselves. ... Shut up and dribble"

To LeBron James who tried to use his platform to speak politically.

While her comment probably meant the same as yours in that "Is his argument really sensible and how sensible can it be for him to make figuring what he does on a daily basis", and I agree that opinion is a valid one to make or consider in reference to it. Who are we to dismiss his opinion, or hers, outright without at least considering the merit of what they intend to say and the validity of what they have to say first?

End. This is real life political discussions. Not internet forum discussions which break down into tossing insults. What is your thoughts on Kim K meeting with the President, you two?
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