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Topic	Okay some serious shit happened to my friend and he is in jail
yutterh 05/26/18 5:20:42 PM #12:	Zeus posted... argonautweakend posted... My initial reaction was shock, thinking there is no way he would do this. when he would mention his babysitting i never once got any sort of creepy vibes from him. Well, you can never really tell and you certainly don't want to believe it. argonautweakend posted... if he is guilty his name deserves to be ruined, but if it turns out he didnt do the alleged crimes, then his life will still likely be ruined. Pretty much. It's why the US should probably consider some law shielding defendants' identities until they're convicted, at least in the case of certain crimes. yutterh posted... Sounds very serious, and I doubt the family would set him up on something like this. Unless ypur friend is rich or he really pissed them off. I am sure it actually happened. Either way innocent or guilty, your friend will never escape from this and he won't be able to find a job ever. His life is ruined. You're assuming malice on the part of the parents (which doesn't necessarily need to be there for a bad allegation) and, more importantly, playing into the stigma of guilty-even-if-found-innocent-beyond-the-shadow-of-a-doubt that comes with these kinds of crimes. You know, the very thing you almost seem to criticize at the end of your post. Yes, I am assuming malice if the allegation is bad. How many of these are false accusations in general anyways? But I don't know any false allegations where either the parent or the kid had malice. Has there been false allegations that have had no malice and were overturned? How many child molestation allegations been overturned with the accused not having their lives ruined? I have had first hand experience with two friends. One was accused of sexually assault and got put on the list for 10 years, it is almost impossible for him to get a job and it's hard for him to hold them when be does. My other friend possibly raped a chick but no chargers were brought up on him. Some think it was regret sex, some think they were both just drunk, and some think he raped her. But he got lucky and it didn't go to court. The first friend, I am sure he may have said something without realizing it. But didn't deserve the charge. The other I don't know what to make of the story, at first I was on his side but then more facts came put and it was blurry, I think it was regret sex but he denies it ever happened. But it's been years so I may be getting some facts wrong. --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:902029686] in Okay some ... [t:76645905]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>My initial reaction was shock, thinking there is no way he would do this. when he would mention his babysitting i never once got any sort of creepy vibes from him.</quote> Well, you can never really tell and you certainly don't want to believe it. <cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>if he is guilty his name deserves to be ruined, but if it turns out he didnt do the alleged crimes, then his life will still likely be ruined. </quote> Pretty much. It's why the US should probably consider some law shielding defendants' identities until they're convicted, at least in the case of certain crimes. <cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds very serious, and I doubt the family would set him up on something like this. Unless ypur friend is rich or he really pissed them off. I am sure it actually happened. Either way innocent or guilty, your friend will never escape from this and he won't be able to find a job ever. His life is ruined.</quote> You're assuming malice on the part of the parents (which doesn't necessarily need to be there for a bad allegation) and, more importantly, playing into the stigma of guilty-even-if-found-innocent-beyond-the-shadow-of-a-doubt that comes with these kinds of crimes. You know, the very thing you almost seem to criticize at the end of your post.</quote> Yes, I am assuming malice if the allegation is bad. How many of these are false accusations in general anyways? But I don't know any false allegations where either the parent or the kid had malice. Has there been false allegations that have had no malice and were overturned? How many child molestation allegations been overturned with the accused not having their lives ruined? I have had first hand experience with two friends. One was accused of sexually assault and got put on the list for 10 years, it is almost impossible for him to get a job and it's hard for him to hold them when be does. My other friend possibly raped a chick but no chargers were brought up on him. Some think it was regret sex, some think they were both just drunk, and some think he raped her. But he got lucky and it didn't go to court. The first friend, I am sure he may have said something without realizing it. But didn't deserve the charge. The other I don't know what to make of the story, at first I was on his side but then more facts came put and it was blurry, I think it was regret sex but he denies it ever happened. But it's been years so I may be getting some facts wrong. --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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