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Topic	Baby Boomers are starting to retire and the economy is starting to tank.
Zanzenburger 05/08/18 12:23:38 PM #42:	QassTank posted... So what I'm getting from reading that article Zanzenburger linked is not that employers are sexist, but that women make different lifestyle choices. Which is exactly what I've been saying all along. I don't think that admitting this is a problem because my whole argument is that the wage gap myth is attempting to shove societal trends onto employers as a problem and make them out to be the "bad guy". I also wonder if they factor in years of service into their calculations... I mean I have two employees that have the exact same position, but one makes more because they have been with the company far longer. At a given level of experience and length of employment, both employees get paid the same. But if you just look at position, there is a huge wage gap there, even factoring in that the higher paid employee works more. But again, this is somewhat a lifestyle choice. I do believe that the stereotype that greedy old White men are actively trying to suppress wages for women is inaccurate and not based on reality. Kinda like the stereotype that rape typically happens in a back alley by a stranger. While that does happen, that's not where most of the cases lie. The gender gap, as Covxy mentioned, is more a number of lifestyle and societal factors that make it difficult for women to compete with men in the workforce. While it is not explicitly the employer's fault, I think the argument is what are employers expected to do to help solve the problem. Women can't singlehandedly solve the problem on their own without employer support. Obviously, employers are generally happy with the way things are, as changing anything would be costly and take a lot of extra work. Hence why laws against discrimination are passed to force employers to work towards providing a solution. For the most part, it has been working. Women and minorities, who have traditionally been screwed over in the workplace, have made great gains as far as gaining employment, acquiring promotions, and increasing their salary. But there is still a ways to go. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:900998740] in Baby Boome... [t:76586485]...</cite> <quote><cite>QassTank posted...</cite> <quote>So what I'm getting from reading that article Zanzenburger linked is not that employers are sexist, but that women make different lifestyle choices. Which is exactly what I've been saying all along. I don't think that admitting this is a problem because my whole argument is that the wage gap myth is attempting to shove societal trends onto employers as a problem and make them out to be the "bad guy". I also wonder if they factor in years of service into their calculations... I mean I have two employees that have the exact same position, but one makes more because they have been with the company far longer. At a given level of experience and length of employment, both employees get paid the same. But if you just look at position, there is a huge wage gap there, even factoring in that the higher paid employee works more. But again, this is somewhat a lifestyle choice.</quote> I do believe that the stereotype that greedy old White men are actively trying to suppress wages for women is inaccurate and not based on reality. Kinda like the stereotype that rape typically happens in a back alley by a stranger. While that does happen, that's not where most of the cases lie. The gender gap, as Covxy mentioned, is more a number of lifestyle and societal factors that make it difficult for women to compete with men in the workforce. While it is not explicitly the employer's fault, I think the argument is what are employers expected to do to help solve the problem. Women can't singlehandedly solve the problem on their own without employer support. Obviously, employers are generally happy with the way things are, as changing anything would be costly and take a lot of extra work. Hence why laws against discrimination are passed to force employers to work towards providing a solution. For the most part, it has been working. Women and minorities, who have traditionally been screwed over in the workplace, have made great gains as far as gaining employment, acquiring promotions, and increasing their salary. But there is still a ways to go. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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