Animals eat other animals is entirely true though, how is it a bad argument? We're animals.
Animals eat animals, plants indirectly and sometimes directly eat animals and other plants. Even herbivores will kill and eat smaller animals sometimes. Massive amounts of animals are killed accidentally while harvesting plants. Plants have feelings and science is finding more and more reasons that they may be intelligent and self aware. Even an ultra vegan who grows all of their own food is probably "murdering".
Life is death and there is no escape.
Even if plants suffer and harvesting plants kills animals then being vegan is better as it requires fewer plants to be harvested to feed people
Yeah we're animals that have the capacity to do better than factory farming
Wouldn't you need more, though. When I eat something like meaty, I can feel full faster. When I'm just eat something like fruits and veggies, I feel like it takes longer... maybe that's just me, though...
It takes a lot of plant matter to make meat. Beef for example takes over 6 pounds of grain per pound of meat.
It's inefficient vs just getting the macros from the plants yourself. All protein in animals came from the plants they ate, or in the case of predators, from the plants that sustained their prey. These animals burn off the plant matter just by existing. Laws of thermodynamics: you're losing that food to animal body heat. Gone.
Humans are starving while billions of factory farmed animals eat grains in abundance. So many grains that it's burning forests to make room for animal feed. It's driving deforestation in the Amazon and other critical regions. And it's creating billions of mouths to feed while humans are still without food
Inefficient and killing the planet
I can understand that, but is it possible that it would be worse if we stop killing animals. Animals would still need to eat, so they would. And humans would also need to eat. Now we need more plants and space because both humans and animals need to eat plants. Not only that, more humans than normal are eating plants, meaning we need more than we use to have. And we also have more animals since we've stopped killing them. Maybe. I mean, we could keep making it so not as many animals can breed, but that comes with it's own problems...
I mean, I don.'think really know. I don't know the logistics of it. It just seems like that could possibly happen... ---
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