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TopicDo you agree with this article on tipping? (Buzzfeed)
1337toothbrush
03/14/18 5:36:47 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Absolutely wrong. Stop feeling like a victim.

Irony of ironies. You're the biggest one (if not the only one) claiming to be a victim in this topic if the practice of tipping is taken away.


Losing out on the opportunity for me to make more money *does* make me a victim.

ModLogic is trying to victimize himself by saying "other people might be slightly bothered by me keeping more money for myself".


Similar to how politicians are victims if we were to reform the bribery lobby system. You're making more money at the cost of others. ModLogic is just pointing out how shitty the system of tipping is. I generally pay a 20% tip, but I'd much rather they just raise all the prices by 20%. If that means people who would have cheapened out on tipping stop going, then so be it. That just means everyone else doesn't have to subsidize them or get made out to be the worst people ever. It also means I don't have my meal repeatedly interrupted by some fuck who thinks hovering around my table to ask me if I'm enjoying meal is "great service". In fact, what even is the point in asking? If you send food back, you're also looked upon as a piece of shit.

It's a lose-lose situation and the only winners are scumbag employers who get away with paying employees less and the other winners are people like you who think you're getting high tips solely based off of hard work even though I have posted evidence to the contrary. Nobody "enjoys" tipping like you claim except stupid fucks with some sort of superiority complex who think they're like a king because they can write a tip at the end of a meal. Most people either hate having to figure out some stupid tip at the end of a meal or they just put up with it and freely admit it's a terrible system but they do it out of peer pressure. There is a reason why there are many articles on why tipping sucks. The only articles coming out of the other side is, "think of the poor servers!" not "tipping is enjoyable and actually a fairer system than just paying a fixed price" like you claim.

fenderbender321 posted...
Those articles have nothing to do with my argument about tipping being the will of the people and a solution to how lower paying jobs can become more lucrative.

Why don't you post evidence that tipping is "the will of the people". You (well, maybe not you specifically, since so many things are going over your head) can tell from just looking at this topic that it is overwhelmingly not "the will of the people".

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/opinion/tipped-into-poverty.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/opinion/sunday/tips-and-poverty.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/tips-dont-add-up-for-most-waiters-and-waitresses-1407520147

http://rocunited.org/publications/tipped-over-the-edge-gender-inequity-in-the-restaurant-industry/
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