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TopicAgnosticism is a cop out, "agnosticism" doesn't exist
Dustin1280
03/06/18 9:29:27 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Idk, my experience is that most who identify as atheist just don't particularly care to state which subcategory they belong under. And people who identify specifically as agnostic do so because they don't like the baggage that the word "atheism" brings with it.

There is certainly truth in that statement. If you are talking to a highly religious person, saying agnostic will almost always conclude the conversation (you don't want to have anyway) in a better way with less judgement involved. Saying atheist will almost surely involve immediate judgement and possibly escalate things.

My conclusion is as follows: If a supernatural being truly existed and wanted us to worship him, he would do SOMETHING that makes it clear he exists. He wouldn't just constantly test us the entire time. Such a being if he were truly GOOD wouldn't allow some of the TERRIBLE things that happen in this world either. After all if you creations are destroying themselves in the most awful way possible and you actually care about them, it would be better to intervene and prevent such awful occurrences from happening to begin with (regardless of free will, some people deserve death). If this being exists and he doesn't intervene then he is an evil malicious being, and I don't want to worship him anyway.

Thus the only logical conclusions I can come to are:
1. IF we were created by something, whatever that something is has moved on to his next creation and pays no attention to us.
2 Alternatively we were created by no such being at all.

That is why I refer to myself as simply agnostic, not as a copout but because it fits my personal beliefs better.
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