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Topic	ITT: A gun-control advocate learns about guns
Mr_Biscuit 02/24/18 3:10:38 PM #1:	I always hear that it's impossible to argue with liberals or gun-control advocates because they know nothing about guns and don't use the correct terminology. So, I want to learn. Speaking with Pepys Monster, TropicalWood, AssaultTank, and a few others yesterday, I learned the following: AssultTank posted... The types of guns are generally as follows. Single action; usually a revolver but you must manually pull the hammer down to prime the gun to fire. Double action; with this type of gun, when you pull the trigger it primes the hammer and fires the gun. Also usually a revolver. Bolt action; usually rifles, but the bolt must be manually cycled to ready the next round. Pump action, basically bolt action for shotguns. Semi-automatic; one trigger pull fires the round and cycles the bolt for the next round to be readied. Most rifles and pistols are semi automatic. Some shotguns are as well. Slam fire, pump action but if you hold the trigger while pumping it will fire again. Assault rifle; a select fire rifle capable of semi automatic, automatic, and in most cases burst fire. Burst fire; one trigger pull fires a set number of rounds, usually 3. Automatic; bullets fire as long as the trigger is held. My first blush response to that was that single, bolt, and pump (as well as maybe double) seem to be reasonable for home defense while also providing just a LITTLE extra time to either take cover or possibly tackle an assailant in a mass shooting scenario. In response to that, I got linked to these videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_a7pXWi6xo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgav7mNzIYo Those show that even with the "lesser" rates of fire, you can still shoot incredibly fast under the right circumstances. So I suppose my first question is this: are those videos above showing shots that just about anybody could pull off while attacking a school/mall/etc, or am I watching trick shots? If the former, then that concerns me, but if the latter, then it starts falling the category of "any killer with enough motivation and creativity will find a way to pull it off." In the vein of "does it have to be so freaking easy, though?", what am I seeing in those videos? --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896691686] in ITT: A gun... [t:76353496]...</cite> <quote>I always hear that it's impossible to argue with liberals or gun-control advocates because they know nothing about guns and don't use the correct terminology. So, I want to learn. Speaking with Pepys Monster, TropicalWood, AssaultTank, and a few others yesterday, I learned the following: <cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote>The types of guns are generally as follows. Single action; usually a revolver but you must manually pull the hammer down to prime the gun to fire. Double action; with this type of gun, when you pull the trigger it primes the hammer and fires the gun. Also usually a revolver. Bolt action; usually rifles, but the bolt must be manually cycled to ready the next round. Pump action, basically bolt action for shotguns. Semi-automatic; one trigger pull fires the round and cycles the bolt for the next round to be readied. Most rifles and pistols are semi automatic. Some shotguns are as well. Slam fire, pump action but if you hold the trigger while pumping it will fire again. Assault rifle; a select fire rifle capable of semi automatic, automatic, and in most cases burst fire. Burst fire; one trigger pull fires a set number of rounds, usually 3. Automatic; bullets fire as long as the trigger is held.</quote> My first blush response to that was that single, bolt, and pump (as well as maybe double) seem to be reasonable for home defense while also providing just a LITTLE extra time to either take cover or possibly tackle an assailant in a mass shooting scenario. In response to that, I got linked to these videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_a7pXWi6xo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgav7mNzIYo Those show that even with the "lesser" rates of fire, you can still shoot incredibly fast under the right circumstances. So I suppose my first question is this: are those videos above showing shots that just about anybody could pull off while attacking a school/mall/etc, or am I watching trick shots? If the former, then that concerns me, but if the latter, then it starts falling the category of "any killer with enough motivation and creativity will find a way to pull it off." In the vein of "does it have to be so freaking easy, though?", what am I seeing in those videos? --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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