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TopicA new Netflix show wants to manipulate people into committing murder
Doctor Foxx
02/21/18 6:37:53 PM
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ASlaveObeys posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
ASlaveObeys posted...
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Andromicus posted...
Hasn't the Milgrim experiment been completely thrown out as a bad study?

It's an unethical study and experiment though the results seem to be supported through many repeat studies

And copying that for no scientific end is extra unethical

Actually it's pretty much the opposite.
Most evidence shows that Milgrim manipulated the study and in most repeat studies (that are properly done) the majority won't follow the commands.
something like 66% of people won't even "push the button" the first time, almost none will push the final "kill" button. This is all from my college learning days and the % might be off but it's around 65-70%.

Milgrim did a lot of shady things with his study, like if the people didn't follow the order from the authority the actor was told to basically bully the people into doing it and manipulating data and notes by removing participants who didn't push the buttons/kill button.

Still, it's fucked up to even try it I guess. Ethically speaking.


https://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html

There were four prods and if one was not obeyed, then the experimenter (Mr. Williams) read out the next prod, and so on.

Prod 1: Please continue.

Prod 2: The experiment requires you to continue.

Prod 3: It is absolutely essential that you continue.

Prod 4: You have no other choice but to continue.

Results:

65% (two-thirds) of participants (i.e., teachers) continued to the highest level of 450 volts. All the participants continued to 300 volts.

Milgram did more than one experiment he carried out 18 variations of his study. All he did was alter the situation (IV) to see how this affected obedience (DV).


I hadn't heard that not everyone pushed the initial buttons. It seems like a lot of people were willing to hit that kill button.

It was all pretty fucked up and basically existed to say "see, look, the nazis were just following orders"

Again it has been shown he threw out data of the participants not pushing the buttons and it was never published.He also would put friends with friends and had participants who were also reseachers on the study so they had all the reason on earth to be bias.
This study from a technical perspective is completely unsound.
And it's never been even close to repeated with similar results.

I will do more reading, thanks. :)

With it being an invalid study that's even more reason to not emulate something like it for entertainment

helIy posted...
man this looks fake as shit

ya, reality tv for you
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