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TopicI agree with limiting what types of food can be bought with food stamps.
Capn Circus
02/13/18 10:04:31 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
r4X0r posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
It doesnt bother me at all what they spend it on. Once it is theirs, it is theirs and they are the only ones who need to care if they spent it terribly.


This idea is incredibly unsustainable and fiscally irresponsible.

Ah, yes. A program that makes up what, 0.3% of the national budget is unsustainable. But decreasing taxes for the ultra rich is. It's just a coincidence that they're currently cutting finding abysmally low amounts of the budget that go towards programs that help people.


So you firmly believe that people who work should be obligated to feed the people who don't want to?

Can you at least slightly understand why working class people don't want to have to pay the burden for the career unemployed?


So as a member of society, it has been a commonly understood concept that you have an obligation to help provide for others around you. Shanidar 1 is an example from 35,000-45,000 years ago of a disabled person who lived well into adulthood despite being unable to actually contribute to society.

In our capitalist system, there can only be ultra wealthy people if workers are not paid for the proper value of their labor, and the surplus is extracted as profit that goes to those who did not do such work. This system also is flawed because in spite of the fact that automation is supposed to improve the quality of our lives, it only really benefits those who extract the value of labor from others. Then there's the fact that it does not accommodate for those who are unable to work full time or at all, as disabilities of all kinds exist.

Basically? If somebody has an issue with supporting somebody else and they cite capitalism as the reason for their views? They need to shut the hell up, and remove themselves from society until they reevaluate their lives and realize that the progress and uplifting of all members of society should take priority over their own moral hang ups from being born in to a manipulative system that abuses them.


I think we understand supporting people is good. But supporting people doesn't also have to equate to providing them 5 star meals and delicacies many middle class individuals do not routinely buy themselves.

And without capitalism, we wouldn't be where we are now. Let me know of a nation that is ripe with freedom, prosperity, wealth and technology that doesn't follow a capitalistic model.

And also let me know if you want to move somewhere else. And if so, where?
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