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Topic	Why doesn't our pro-life government guarantee healthcare to all life?
ScazarMeltex 02/08/18 3:52:57 PM #28:	Esrac posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... s0nicfan posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... the typical Conservative mindset of "oh, i don't care how incapable you are of caring for that child, you WILL give birth to it and you will NOT receive any assistance from anyone, that's life" just blows my mind I'm pretty sure the typical conservative mindset is "wear a goddamn condom if you can't afford a kid", which outside of rape cases is a perfectly valid justification. Having kids isn't a constitutional right, and its your choice if you want to shoulder the burden. I don't agree with pro-lifers, but I also don't think you should intentionally misrepresent their arguments to make them look like cartoon villains. that's fine, but saying "you shouldn't have gotten pregnant" does absolutely nothing once the accident happens. i don't understand why they care so much for the life of the child while it's in the womb, but if that very same child is literally starving because the mom is poor, well, that's just her fault and it sucks to be that kid. if those people genuinely valued the life of that child i would think that compassion would extend for the entire time the child is a child. Like I said, it's about personal responsibility to them. Basically, okay, you got pregnant. Now you have a responsibility to raise and provide for that child. That is YOUR responsibility, not the responsibility of the other tax payers or the state. It's time for you to grow up, get married, go to work, and feed your kids. It's idealistic, sure, but can be blinding to reality. Thats bullshit. People get pregnant when using condoms, the pill, or both. Even married people like myself don't necessarily want children. So what you are basically saying is that I don't have the right to fuck my wife without having to worry about her getting pregnant. Which is the exact thing that evangelicals want. No sex without procreation. Now you can say, go get a vasectomy. Fine, thats what I did. Not everyone has the money or insurance that covers it. So now you've put consequence free sex behind a paywall. It's about controlling the sex lives and actions of others and it always has been for religious conservatives. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:895715916] in Why doesn'... [t:76297604]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>the typical Conservative mindset of "oh, i don't care how incapable you are of caring for that child, you WILL give birth to it and you will NOT receive any assistance from anyone, that's life" just blows my mind</quote> I'm pretty sure the typical conservative mindset is "wear a goddamn condom if you can't afford a kid", which outside of rape cases is a perfectly valid justification. Having kids isn't a constitutional right, and its your choice if you want to shoulder the burden. I don't agree with pro-lifers, but I also don't think you should intentionally misrepresent their arguments to make them look like cartoon villains.</quote> that's fine, but saying "you shouldn't have gotten pregnant" does absolutely nothing once the accident happens. i don't understand why they care so much for the life of the child while it's in the womb, but if that very same child is literally starving because the mom is poor, well, that's just her fault and it sucks to be that kid. if those people genuinely valued the life of that child i would think that compassion would extend for the entire time the child is a child.</quote> Like I said, it's about personal responsibility to them. Basically, okay, you got pregnant. Now you have a responsibility to raise and provide for that child. That is YOUR responsibility, not the responsibility of the other tax payers or the state. It's time for you to grow up, get married, go to work, and feed your kids. It's idealistic, sure, but can be blinding to reality.</quote> Thats bullshit. People get pregnant when using condoms, the pill, or both. Even married people like myself don't necessarily want children. So what you are basically saying is that I don't have the right to fuck my wife without having to worry about her getting pregnant. Which is the exact thing that evangelicals want. No sex without procreation. Now you can say, go get a vasectomy. Fine, thats what I did. Not everyone has the money or insurance that covers it. So now you've put consequence free sex behind a paywall. It's about controlling the sex lives and actions of others and it always has been for religious conservatives. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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