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TopicCEs opinion on new Ontario law allowing govt to seize children from parents who
Ulyanyx
02/07/18 2:27:00 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Zikten posted...
Alucard188 posted...
Telling their kid that their sexuality is wrong or immoral is very damaging to the kid.

know what else is damaging? letting a 10 year old kid that doesn't know the seriousness of their decision, do gender change surgery before they even hit puberty


That's not what's happening in this legislation


It is a slippery slope that will culminate in kids getting taken away from parents because it's the rebellious thing to do. I agree with it in the sense that a gay/lesbian teen shouldn't face abuse from home and should have a way to deal with it, but I highly disagree in the way that it is proposed.

I don't think any positive trans news has ever been a good thing. Gay/Lesbian peoples have only recently started being accepted and they still face discrimination, as do black people. I think for trans-gender issues, a few people should be selectively chosen and have mental checkups for a few years so we can see the effects on adults before letting teenagers or kids make choices like this. In this way we can have more research available to people who are considering transitioning, and they can see how hard or easy it may be for some people. This in turn will make them think if they are really making the right choice, and if they truly believe they are then they will go through with it anyways.

In the statement we're facing, what is a parent supposed to do when their own child can drum up attention on social media if the government has read into the case and decided no abuse is taking place, yet the person in question claims it's still abuse to them ala microaggressions or something? With anything on social media these days able to drum up support, a child is now in control of how their parents are looked at by the world. The child may be given a better life, but do the parents really deserve to be able to be scrutinized under the eyes of the world simply because they may not agree? People will lose jobs over this, and people will lose companies over this if it truly gets to pervasive measures, which it will. If the article is true and claims to be about teens, it won't be hard for one kid to make some post which gets shared around by other students, then shown to progressive parents eventually schools will get involved etc.

In time this could very well be a human rights issue. Through either a totalitarian approach where anything deemed "wrong" will get kids taken by social services, or where kids will do anything they can to get away from the abuse they may face.

I do have some faith that the government wouldn't propose stricter and stricter laws regarding this, but one can never be to sure.

@darkjedilink

I realize what I was saying is speculation, but "abuse" to anyone can mean very different things, and it seems hard to paint a good picture of what this abuse would be, and how extreme it would have to be for children to be removed. Does a parent simply make comments that they disagree? Is that perhaps one of many cases where a child ends up winning and being taken from their parents because they can't say they identify as a double soul fox owl mammal squirrel seven year old in a twenty nine year old's body, and a parent simply dismisses it everytime it's brought up by simply saying "I don't quite agree with that, and I think you should wait until you're 18 before you decide on things like that" only for the government to intervene and say "You are not allowing your child the necessities they need to grow as a person we they will be taken away."?

Where do the lines begin and end with this law?
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