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Topic	A Microsoft shareholder grilled them about their lack of Xbox exclusives
Darmik 02/02/18 12:49:07 AM #60:	Frolex posted... They instroduced games with gold and ps+...while at the same time removing access to free features like online play or apps like the web browser or netflix. No they didn't. Microsoft always charged for online. When they introduced Games with Gold they removed the Netflix and browser restrictions. PS+ started with games. They started to lock online behind a paywall with the PS4. You can still play online for free on PS3 and Vita. Frolex posted... A subscription model for the games themselves will only help further their control over game sales and restrict consumers' ability or interest to just refuse to take part in anti-consumer practices. Of course you're not going to be able to control sales under a subscription. That's the point. If you want the game you have to buy it separately. What else is there left for them to do? You pay $10 to access hundreds of games. You don't own any of them. If you don't like a games business model you play another one. If there's nothing else to play there's no reason to subscribe. If you want to own the game you buy it as normal. Frolex posted... There is literally not a single instance of the games industry not taking full advantage of potential monetization stream to push severely anti-consumer methods. Not a single one. It's not a "doomsday scenario", it's become the reality of the gaming industry for any player who isn't solely restricting themselves to independent titles. The game industry isn't some unique thing that's more hungry for money than other industries. They're all the same. Do you have the same concerns over Netflix, Amazon Prime or Spotify? Of course they're going to take advantage of the biggest revenue stream. The biggest potential revenue stream for Microsoft right now is getting millions of people to subscribe to Game Pass. That's their goal. It's not an easy goal either. They need to entice as many people as possible and get people to buy Xbox consoles or gaming PC's. Saying they're randomly going to add additional subscriptions to play Dragon Age is nonsense. The fear mongering has to at least have some sort of sense. Otherwise you may as well claim that the game industry will randomly charge $120 for games with microtransactions tomorrow. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:895291198] in A Microsof... [t:76271670]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote>They instroduced games with gold and ps+...while at the same time removing access to free features like online play or apps like the web browser or netflix. </quote> No they didn't. Microsoft always charged for online. When they introduced Games with Gold they removed the Netflix and browser restrictions. PS+ started with games. They started to lock online behind a paywall with the PS4. You can still play online for free on PS3 and Vita. <cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote>A subscription model for the games themselves will only help further their control over game sales and restrict consumers' ability or interest to just refuse to take part in anti-consumer practices. </quote> Of course you're not going to be able to control sales under a subscription. That's the point. If you want the game you have to buy it separately. What else is there left for them to do? You pay $10 to access hundreds of games. You don't own any of them. If you don't like a games business model you play another one. If there's nothing else to play there's no reason to subscribe. If you want to own the game you buy it as normal. <cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote>There is literally not a single instance of the games industry not taking full advantage of potential monetization stream to push severely anti-consumer methods. Not a single one. It's not a "doomsday scenario", it's become the reality of the gaming industry for any player who isn't solely restricting themselves to independent titles.</quote> The game industry isn't some unique thing that's more hungry for money than other industries. They're all the same. Do you have the same concerns over Netflix, Amazon Prime or Spotify? Of course they're going to take advantage of the biggest revenue stream. The biggest potential revenue stream for Microsoft right now is getting millions of people to subscribe to Game Pass. That's their goal. It's not an easy goal either. They need to entice as many people as possible and get people to buy Xbox consoles or gaming PC's. Saying they're randomly going to add additional subscriptions to play Dragon Age is nonsense. The fear mongering has to at least have some sort of sense. Otherwise you may as well claim that the game industry will randomly charge $120 for games with microtransactions tomorrow. --- Kind Regards, Darmik</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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