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Topicanyone else vegan?
Doctor Foxx
02/01/18 8:22:36 PM
#205:


Omega Hunter posted...
The vast majority of health problems that seems to be caused by eating meat is actually caused by eating unhealthy animals raised on diets they were never meant to eat(see corn), pumped full of drugs, and living unnaturally restrictive and sedentary lives then fried up in oils that dont naturally occur in nature and having this unnatural meat make up too large a portion of your diet.

Meat that is completely natural (100% grass fed beef, pasture raised chickens, wild caught fish) when eaten in sensible portions, and cooked in a healthy manner (not breaded and fried) is perfectly healthy for humans to consume and anyone that tells u otherwise is a moron.

Let us assume this to be true that ethically traditionally raised animals are completely healthy: people need to eat substantially less animal products to allow that to be the norm. Using traditional grazing agriculture for livestock reduces potential production of meat and other products. The current demand is only met from factory farming. The current demand is too much for this planet and the creatures on it. There is simply not enough room to raise animals in these numbers in any healthy way.

There are too many people alive to be eating meat with any regularity if we must raise animals in a natural way to keep it healthy. Too little land. Too few people in rural areas working in this practice. To many people in cities.

99%+ of what people are eating (in North America) is that horrible factory farmed stuff. Anything processed with animal products is that stuff. Traditional farming methods cannot produce anything close to the volume of the modern factory farming/dairy/egg industries. As more people concentrate into cities and no longer have their own land or raise their own animals, they leave the burden of this industry to fewer individuals. and there are not enough people working to properly raise and tend to animals (and not enough living in the area to do it well regardless). there must be far fewer animals bred and consumed. Or city dwellers need to move away and raise their own animals. Then there's still not enough pasture. We'd eventually have to sacrifice ariable land for livestock to graze on, cutting into other more efficient ways of feeding people.

Ethically I disagree with killing an animal when it's not necessary or to end immediate suffering. And ultimately animals and their products are in no way required to have a healthy and varied diet for most humans alive.

So for me I will abstain from all of it. Others may make their choice, as we all have been doing.
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