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Topic	Family believes TAMIFLU led to teen's suicide
Suprak the Stud 01/31/18 3:57:28 PM #21:	Gatarix posted... psaltery posted... The couple told WXIN the teen had never expressed suicidal thoughts before and had no signs of depression. my first reaction is to be skeptical because (1) a lot of families don't know their kids that well and (2) some people are good at putting up a front, even if they're falling apart inside on the other hand, the maker of Tamiflu admits (in response to this incident) that "neuropsychiatric events" can be a side effect, which is pretty shady ^ Almost half of all depression caused suicides have some sort of "but he/she seemed so happy" etc. Depressed people can hide their depression very well, sometimes for long periods of time. All medications have side effects, and Tamiflu's were well reported (on the side of the packaging) so there is nothing shady about it. Tamiflu is remarkably effective at treating the flu, and has saved significantly more people than it has hurt. If it affects 0.01% of the population (and the data here isn't even that high, but for arguments sake), but treats 99% effectively, that is a tradeoff almost all doctors are going to take, particularly if you are dealing with significant symptoms of the flu. (Also psychological side effects were reported after long term exposure, not just a couple of doses. And the psychological side effects actually do not include suicidal thoughts or ideations but rather changes to thought and behavior). How many people take Tamiflu every year? Have you heard of a rash of suicides as a result of taking Tamiflu, or is this the first story you've heard about it? It is easy to say "oh he took x and then y happened, it must have caused it!" But that is almost never the case. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:895192135] in Family bel... [t:76266114]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gatarix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>psaltery posted...</cite> <quote>The couple told WXIN the teen had never expressed suicidal thoughts before and had no signs of depression.</quote> my first reaction is to be skeptical because (1) a lot of families don't know their kids that well and (2) some people are good at putting up a front, even if they're falling apart inside on the other hand, the maker of Tamiflu admits (in response to this incident) that "neuropsychiatric events" can be a side effect, which is pretty shady</quote> ^ Almost half of all depression caused suicides have some sort of "but he/she seemed so happy" etc. Depressed people can hide their depression very well, sometimes for long periods of time. All medications have side effects, and Tamiflu's were well reported (on the side of the packaging) so there is nothing shady about it. Tamiflu is remarkably effective at treating the flu, and has saved significantly more people than it has hurt. If it affects 0.01% of the population (and the data here isn't even that high, but for arguments sake), but treats 99% effectively, that is a tradeoff almost all doctors are going to take, particularly if you are dealing with significant symptoms of the flu. (Also psychological side effects were reported after long term exposure, not just a couple of doses. And the psychological side effects actually do not include suicidal thoughts or ideations but rather changes to thought and behavior). How many people take Tamiflu every year? Have you heard of a rash of suicides as a result of taking Tamiflu, or is this the first story you've heard about it? It is easy to say "oh he took x and then y happened, it must have caused it!" But that is almost never the case. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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