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Topic	ITT, you (attempt to) explain why taxation isn't theft...
Mike_Stanton 01/11/18 12:06:37 AM #45:	wackyteen posted... Mike_Stanton posted... The fruit of ones labor belongs to no one else but the individual. Uh no The fruits of labor should go to the collective for the betterment of the whole group If you're a collectivist/socialist then that's certainly consistent with your philosophy. My problem with that is that there will always be moochers who take advantage of those who actually do the work. wackyteen posted... Also the fruits of your labor go to the company you work for They just cut you a check so you'll keep coming and working for them. That's what I'm referring to. Your employer pays based on your contributions to the company (i.e. the fruits that you contribute to the company). wackyteen posted... But for real it's not theft because you're a citizen of whatever country you live in By virtue of that agreement, you agree to pay taxes out of your paycheck and when you buy stuff That goes back to my point about how the government could theoretically give itself the right to kill its citizens (as has been done many times throughout history). It doesn't cease to be murder just because the government gave itself that right. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:893811450] in ITT, you (... [t:76185354]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>The fruit of ones labor belongs to no one else but the individual. </quote> Uh no The fruits of labor should go to the collective for the betterment of the whole group</quote> If you're a collectivist/socialist then that's certainly consistent with your philosophy. My problem with that is that there will always be moochers who take advantage of those who actually do the work. <cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote>Also the fruits of your labor go to the company you work for They just cut you a check so you'll keep coming and working for them.</quote> That's what I'm referring to. Your employer pays based on your contributions to the company (i.e. the fruits that you contribute to the company). <cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote>But for real it's not theft because you're a citizen of whatever country you live in By virtue of that agreement, you agree to pay taxes out of your paycheck and when you buy stuff</quote> That goes back to my point about how the government could theoretically give itself the right to kill its citizens (as has been done many times throughout history). It doesn't cease to be murder just because the government gave itself that right. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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