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TopicQuinton and Leonhart in Different Houses: Magic Fate/Ball Edition [JZLF]
LeonhartFour
12/31/17 3:49:54 PM
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Final Fantasy VII: Great Because It's Weird

yeah I think I agree

also I'm looking at this map and of all the locations to include they picked the Chocobo Farm?

Before I played Final Fantasy VII, I didnt think it was going to be very good. I dont remember how I was introduced to the gamemaybe it was a store ad, or a magazine, or that wild 1997 TV commercialbut I do remember hating it.

Man, I was exactly the opposite. FFVII was probably the first game that ever convinced me to buy it based on advertising alone (FFVII was my first FF game and my second RPG ever after Super Mario RPG, in case you didn't know). That ad campaign was amazing. No game looked like that in 1997.

even download it on your Vita (which you almost certainly own)

whoa how did he do that?

That the most successful Japanese role-playing games succeed because they embrace strangeness. The least successful Japanese role-playing games fail because they take themselves too seriously.

I like this as a measuring stick but I'm trying to figure out which JRPGs fail because they take themselves too seriously.

eventually discovering that he plans to destroy the planet by summoning a massive meteor called Meteor.

Makes sense

Everything falls apart in the worlds northernmost continent, the so-called Promised Land, where Sephiroth murders Clouds buddy/possible love interest Aeris and then convinces Cloud that hes a clone.

I don't think the northern continent is considered the Promised Land. It's the place where most of the ancient Cetra (or ancient Ancients if you prefer) lived, so by definition, it can't be the Promised Land because their lives were a pilgrimage to find it. It's a Promised Land in a sense to Shinra because of the abundant Mako stores, but yeah, my impression has always been that the Promised Land was the afterlife (or "returning to the Planet" as the game phrases it).

Although theyre able to stop Meteor, it appears to wipe out the planet anyway, and at the end of the game the only survivor we see is Red XIII, a dog who gains strength from his hairpins. (Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, a film released in 2005, retcons this ending, but we wont get into that.)

I mean it actually doesn't

I do miss the old debates about whether Holy actually wiped out all of humanity (since this was discussed as one of the possibilities) that Advent Children ended, but I was always under the impression that humanity survived. I feel like it wouldn't really jive with the game's themes if humanity went extinct (the same reason why the R=U Theory in FFVIII falls flat beyond its other logistical problems).

But the games real villain is Jenova

oh he's one of those guys

Square has confirmed that Sephiroth was controlling Jenova the whole time, not the other way around

For example, via GameFAQs:

oh hey that's where I am

Also fun: watching the summon animations and thinking about how, just 20 years ago, they blew all of our minds.

Bahamut ZERO, man

The saddest death: Cait Sith, who sacrifices himself to save the party from blowing up. He is greatly missed, until his replacement arrives.

he forgot the very important detail that Cait Sith #2 arrives literally less than five minutes later
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