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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 148: Don't Sexually Assault People
Suprak the Stud 11/17/17 1:12:07 PM #111:	For Corrik - Original apology reactions: Mana (post 322): taking the Sessions approach, I see NOT POSITIVE --- Jakyl (post 329): What an awful, awful response. Guess I shouldnt have done it! Oopsies! NOT POSITIVE --- Jakyl (post 333): LIke, fuck, It was clearly intended to be funny, but it wasnt. So if it was somehow funny, its cool??? How did that statement get through his legal counsel! NOT POSITIVE --- Reg (post 337): jfc the best case scenario just got a lot worse Over/under a week before he resigns? NOT POSITIVE --- FFD (post 350): Is it sad that I half expected his statement to say that now chooses to live his life as a gay man? Joking, but not positive --- Suprak (post 374): Funny how he remembers the thing she has a picture of but conveniently forgot about the other accusation. thinking face emoji NOT POSITIVE --- AFTER SECOND STATEMENT - Rock (post 388): I mean, that's a very good response but it's kinda hollow if he doesn't resign. Positive, but still calling for resignation so I dunno how positive that really is --- Jakyl (post 391): I dont get what he means by an ethics investigation. Neutral --- Jakyl (post 397): She says she told other people at the time so that shouldnt be hard. Still, I think admitting that you understand how people are disgusted by your actions in the photo probably means you shouldnt be representing those people anymore <_< NOT POSITIVE --- Inviso (post 402): I feel like hes admitting to the groping (or at least the sexual harassment of pretending to grope), but denies her accusation of the kiss (which is the far more disturbing allegation). Thus, hes calling for the investigation specifically for the kids accusation. Neutral --- Suprak (post 404): It's also very, very different to say a joke in bad taste and become more progressive on an issue philosophically than it is to be grabbing a woman who didn't want to be grabbed and then, after you're called out, going "well now I know not to assault women". I'm fine with growth, but this is something you should have ironed out already. He's like what, 50? 60? In that photo? This isn't "youthful indiscretions". NOT POSITIVE --- MI (post 406): In regards to the investigation he is denying the kissing part of the story isn't he? Wouldn't that be the investigation? Neutral --- Reg (post 439): Thinking emoji Seriously though calling for a legit investigation to the matter is a much better thing than Franken's laughable statement from earlier. It's improvement! Still don't think it's far enough at a glance, and that he should probably step down Somewhat positive, but only compared to his original statement and still calls for him to step down --- bananor (post 446): that makes sense. this might sound strange, but over time i've decided to view people as having shrodinger's intentions. when someone does something good, you can never know whether it was out of the goodness of their heart or simply because they wanted praise. if they do something bad, you can never prove 100% that it was an accident. in this case, there is zero way of knowing if the apology is heartfelt or machiavellian. so, as with shrodinger's cat, i have to go on knowing it might be either I don't know what the hell this is --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:890572063] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>For Corrik - Original apology reactions: Mana (post 322): taking the Sessions approach, I see NOT POSITIVE --- Jakyl (post 329): What an awful, awful response. Guess I shouldnt have done it! Oopsies! NOT POSITIVE --- Jakyl (post 333): LIke, fuck, It was clearly intended to be funny, but it wasnt. So if it was somehow funny, its cool??? How did that statement get through his legal counsel! NOT POSITIVE --- Reg (post 337): jfc the best case scenario just got a lot worse Over/under a week before he resigns? NOT POSITIVE --- FFD (post 350): Is it sad that I half expected his statement to say that now chooses to live his life as a gay man? Joking, but not positive --- Suprak (post 374): Funny how he remembers the thing she has a picture of but conveniently forgot about the other accusation. thinking face emoji NOT POSITIVE --- AFTER SECOND STATEMENT - Rock (post 388): I mean, that's a very good response but it's kinda hollow if he doesn't resign. Positive, but still calling for resignation so I dunno how positive that really is --- Jakyl (post 391): I dont get what he means by an ethics investigation. Neutral --- Jakyl (post 397): She says she told other people at the time so that shouldnt be hard. Still, I think admitting that you understand how people are disgusted by your actions in the photo probably means you shouldnt be representing those people anymore <_< NOT POSITIVE --- Inviso (post 402): I feel like hes admitting to the groping (or at least the sexual harassment of pretending to grope), but denies her accusation of the kiss (which is the far more disturbing allegation). Thus, hes calling for the investigation specifically for the kids accusation. Neutral --- Suprak (post 404): It's also very, very different to say a joke in bad taste and become more progressive on an issue philosophically than it is to be grabbing a woman who didn't want to be grabbed and then, after you're called out, going "well now I know not to assault women". I'm fine with growth, but this is something you should have ironed out already. He's like what, 50? 60? In that photo? This isn't "youthful indiscretions". NOT POSITIVE --- MI (post 406): In regards to the investigation he is denying the kissing part of the story isn't he? Wouldn't that be the investigation? Neutral --- Reg (post 439): Thinking emoji Seriously though calling for a legit investigation to the matter is a much better thing than Franken's laughable statement from earlier. It's improvement! Still don't think it's far enough at a glance, and that he should probably step down Somewhat positive, but only compared to his original statement and still calls for him to step down --- bananor (post 446): that makes sense. this might sound strange, but over time i've decided to view people as having shrodinger's intentions. when someone does something good, you can never know whether it was out of the goodness of their heart or simply because they wanted praise. if they do something bad, you can never prove 100% that it was an accident. in this case, there is zero way of knowing if the apology is heartfelt or machiavellian. so, as with shrodinger's cat, i have to go on knowing it might be either I don't know what the hell this is --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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