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Topic	1 million, but every criminal dies
LinkPizza 11/11/17 3:22:36 PM #93:	Rasmoh posted... But they are allowed to get jobs. The problem is that they have shown that they distinctly display traits that are not typically conducive to running a successful business, to the great detriment of those around them. Shouldn't an employer have the right to know that they're hiring someone who might steal from them, attack someone, sexually harass, or assault someone? I agree that it's a vicious cycle, but it's not really difficult at all to simply not enter that cycle. A reform of some of our laws would do wonders though, namely drug possession laws. The biggest issue is that crime tends to be the "easy way out" so to speak. It's faster to try to steal a car and sell it than it is to go to work 40 hours per week and work your way up the ladder, particularly when even stealing a car is unlikely to land you in prison(in Oregon at least). The mindset of justifying the comparatively low risk to high reward is always going to exist, especially when the risk is mitigated further by the fact that you essentially get unlimited chances in our society. Nobody is saying they should have unlimited chances. But at least one would be nice. You say they can get a job, but it's not that easy. They can apply for jobs, but get turned down immediately upon seeing they were a felon. Even without knowing why they were a felon, most of the time. They automatically think the worst. And when they aren't immediately turned down, they usually go for other people first. It makes sense, but also means they aren't getting the chance they need to reform. And some(not all) go back to a life of crime. Some get jobs. And more than that, some just do nothing and mooch. But mooching can sometimes mean that they also aren't back to a life of crime. Also, do you hear yourself. You keep saying how nobody should hire them because they're horrible people. But then you get mad at them because they don't try to reform, even though when they can't get a job, you think that's awesome. You're part of the problem. People like you are the reason this circle can continue. --- 3DS Friend Code: 4742 6214 5315 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. 0001 3388 9537, also. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:890195137] in 1 million,... [t:75957293]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>But they are allowed to get jobs. The problem is that they have shown that they distinctly display traits that are not typically conducive to running a successful business, to the great detriment of those around them. Shouldn't an employer have the right to know that they're hiring someone who might steal from them, attack someone, sexually harass, or assault someone? I agree that it's a vicious cycle, but it's not really difficult at all to simply not enter that cycle. A reform of some of our laws would do wonders though, namely drug possession laws. The biggest issue is that crime tends to be the "easy way out" so to speak. It's faster to try to steal a car and sell it than it is to go to work 40 hours per week and work your way up the ladder, particularly when even stealing a car is unlikely to land you in prison(in Oregon at least). The mindset of justifying the comparatively low risk to high reward is always going to exist, especially when the risk is mitigated further by the fact that you essentially get unlimited chances in our society.</quote> Nobody is saying they should have unlimited chances. But at least one would be nice. You say they can get a job, but it's not that easy. They can apply for jobs, but get turned down immediately upon seeing they were a felon. Even without knowing why they were a felon, most of the time. They automatically think the worst. And when they aren't immediately turned down, they usually go for other people first. It makes sense, but also means they aren't getting the chance they need to reform. And some(not all) go back to a life of crime. Some get jobs. And more than that, some just do nothing and mooch. But mooching can sometimes mean that they also aren't back to a life of crime. Also, do you hear yourself. You keep saying how nobody should hire them because they're horrible people. But then you get mad at them because they don't try to reform, even though when they can't get a job, you think that's awesome. You're part of the problem. People like you are the reason this circle can continue. --- 3DS Friend Code: 4742 6214 5315 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. 0001 3388 9537, also.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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