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Rasmoh 11/11/17 2:35:12 AM #83:	anondum posted... where people go in a petty thief I can't speak for other states, but here in Oregon theft alone will almost never land you in prison and if it does it's never for more than 3 years and to even get to that point requires crossing a tremendous threshold. It typically requires either running an identity theft racket or somehow managing to steal in excess of 50 grand. In my two years with the court system and DOJ here, I've only seen one person actually receive a prison sentence for actual theft and he stole well over 100 grand worth of stuff from a wealthy couple who left the country on vacation. anondum posted... it's further complicated by giving every felon a label and good luck getting a job after you have that which leads to guess what? more crime! Again, I can't speak for other states, but the felon label exists for mostly good reasons. Most felony crimes here in Oregon display traits that would be bad for just about every business under the sun. I am curious to see what other people would suggest though. And any information on bogus felony charges in other states would be interesting too, I'd love to see what other states have that bogs down the system. I will say though that our criminalization of drugs is a horrible idea and really needs to go. I can't recall ever seeing anyone go to prison for simple possession, but I don't think it should be a crime at all. We'd save hundreds of millions of dollars if we legalized, regulated, and taxed drugs. Not only because people wouldn't be receiving moronic criminal charges, but the market for dealing would pretty much vanish due to illegal competition not being viable. The government really doesn't need to be telling adults what they legally can and can't put in their own body. anondum posted... it's like the US's approach to handling crime is completely stupid and why we have more people in prison than anywhere else Our approach would be fine if we had a point at which we said "Enough is enough" and decided to remove the criminals from our society. I personally like the thought of an American version of Australia, essentially an island we'd colonize to exile heinous and/or repeat offenders to. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:890170929] in 1 million,... [t:75957293]...</cite> <quote><cite>anondum posted...</cite> <quote>where people go in a petty thief</quote> I can't speak for other states, but here in Oregon theft alone will almost never land you in prison and if it does it's never for more than 3 years and to even get to that point requires crossing a tremendous threshold. It typically requires either running an identity theft racket or somehow managing to steal in excess of 50 grand. In my two years with the court system and DOJ here, I've only seen one person actually receive a prison sentence for actual theft and he stole well over 100 grand worth of stuff from a wealthy couple who left the country on vacation. <cite>anondum posted...</cite> <quote>it's further complicated by giving every felon a label and good luck getting a job after you have that which leads to guess what? more crime!</quote> Again, I can't speak for other states, but the felon label exists for mostly good reasons. Most felony crimes here in Oregon display traits that would be bad for just about every business under the sun. I am curious to see what other people would suggest though. And any information on bogus felony charges in other states would be interesting too, I'd love to see what other states have that bogs down the system. I will say though that our criminalization of drugs is a horrible idea and really needs to go. I can't recall ever seeing anyone go to prison for simple possession, but I don't think it should be a crime at all. We'd save hundreds of millions of dollars if we legalized, regulated, and taxed drugs. Not only because people wouldn't be receiving moronic criminal charges, but the market for dealing would pretty much vanish due to illegal competition not being viable. The government really doesn't need to be telling adults what they legally can and can't put in their own body. <cite>anondum posted...</cite> <quote>it's like the US's approach to handling crime is completely stupid and why we have more people in prison than anywhere else</quote> Our approach would be fine if we had a point at which we said "Enough is enough" and decided to remove the criminals from our society. I personally like the thought of an American version of Australia, essentially an island we'd colonize to exile heinous and/or repeat offenders to. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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