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TopicWho will win in 2020?
Rasmoh
11/04/17 12:04:25 AM
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shadestreet posted...
You seem to be under the (incorrect) impression that Trump brought a bunch of disenfranchised voters out to vote for him, which gave him the victory.


That's patently untrue though. The deciding factor in Trump's victory were states that Republicans haven't won in over 20 years. Any other Republican would almost assuredly have done nothing to separate themselves from the Republicans who lost these states for the past 20 years. Are you really going to sit here and pretend that Trump didn't bring out a lot of people who typically wouldn't vote Republican or vote at all?

In fact, as pointed out, he still received fewer total votes than the previous failed Republican nominees,


And? His lack of appeal to traditional Republicans was overshadowed by his appeal to people feeling fed up with our political system. Do you genuinely believe a traditional Republic would have swayed Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania? It's far more likely that a traditional Republican would lose those states, but gain more votes from already red states.

You no doubt constantly heard the "lesser of two evils" in reference to either candidate?


Yes, but that factor affected Trump much more than Hillary. Almost the entire media was pushing the angle that Hillary was the lesser of two evils, whereas anti-Trump sentiment was so widespread that it was essentially a global phenomenon.

Any other republican candidate, including Kasich would have beaten Hillary easily. Any other Democratic candidate, including Bernie Sanders would have beaten Trump easily.


You are literally the exact opposite of correct in this notion. The idea that Bernie had a chance against any actual Republican is laughable. And not a single Republican candidate would have been able to rally support capable of overcoming Hillary.

I don't think this mattered at all. Enough time had passed since GWB, and many (if not all) Republicans had already distanced themselves from his policies.


You're severely understating the social impact of Bushes' presidency. Republicans were already a laughingstock near the end of that presidency. Combine that with the relative success the Obama administration had in comparison to the Bush administration, which proved itself laughably inept. Traditional Republicans had no chance, especially in a society that is increasingly rapidly flushing tradition down the toilet.

shadestreet posted...
They miscalculated.


Only in the sense that they didn't realize that Trump's message appealed to a sentiment lying very deep in the hearts of many communities around the country as a backlash to the downfalls of many leftists policy extremes.
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