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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 144: Storming the Gates to capture the Manafort.
Samurai7 11/03/17 4:44:11 PM #423:	SSJBKK20Vegito posted... Espeon posted... Corrik posted... JonThePenguin posted... Corrik posted... CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country. Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment. He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women. How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it. My family (grandfather. Uncle, and cousins in Navy) and my best friend (Army) all find it horrible. Granted, that is a small sample size, but so is his one random person Colin talked too. And polls have been done to show they don't like it. My grandfather and all my friends who served feel the opposite. All of which would be considered liberal. I assume your relatives are conservative. Makes me think it's more a liberal/conservative thing than anything to do with serving the military. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. <cite>Samurai7 posted [p:889699952] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JonThePenguin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country.</quote> Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment.</quote> He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women.</quote> How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it.</quote> My family (grandfather. Uncle, and cousins in Navy) and my best friend (Army) all find it horrible. Granted, that is a small sample size, but so is his one random person Colin talked too. And polls have been done to show they don't like it.</quote> My grandfather and all my friends who served feel the opposite. All of which would be considered liberal. I assume your relatives are conservative. Makes me think it's more a liberal/conservative thing than anything to do with serving the military. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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