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Mal_Fet posted...

Nothing about nationalism, totalitarianism, or tyranny disqualifies one from being leftist. While true they opposed Leninism/Bolshevism, it's false to say they opposed socialism. They didn't. They called themselves socialists and their government was arranged to be a planned collectivist economy with heavy influence over private industry, much like most socialist countries have. Because fascism is just a derivative of socialism.

They absolutely opposed socialism. From Richard J Evans:

True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the November traitors who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats.


Nazis took the leftist label for tactical reasons. Joachim Fest:
And whatever premises the party may have started with, by 1930 Hitlers party was socialist only to take advantage of the emotional value of the word, and a workers party in order to lure the most energetic social force. As with Hitlers protestations of belief in tradition, in conservative values, or in Christianity, the socialist slogans were merely movable ideological props to serve as camouflage and confuse the enemy.

Left wing nationalism typically rejects ethno nationalism and fascism. Right wing nationalism doesn't. And how do we assess the basis for right wing politics? Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal or desirable.
http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/right-wing
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