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Topic	Penn State professor: ''Hard work is a white ideology''
Mal_Fet 10/09/17 3:15:14 PM #168:	MildlyIrkedOwl posted... The Nazis gained power by promising voters to alleviate a German economy mired in depression while also restoring German cultural values, reverse the provisions of the Treaty of Versailles, turn back the perceived threat of a Communist uprising, put the German people back to work, and restore Germany to its 'rightful position' as a world power,". This all from the holocaust museum. The key word here is not socialism, it's "national". They opposed everything traditionally socialism and instead preached a fundamentally undemocratic nationalistic agenda. Privileges for aryans, concentration camps for others. Nothing about nationalism, totalitarianism, or tyranny disqualifies one from being leftist. While true they opposed Leninism/Bolshevism, it's false to say they opposed socialism. They didn't. They called themselves socialists and their government was arranged to be a planned collectivist economy with heavy influence over private industry, much like most socialist countries have. Because fascism is just a derivative of socialism. Balrog0 posted... The existence of price controls doesn't make it any more socialist than the USA, though, either. Price controls in the USA are socialist in concept yes, but Nazi Germany's price/wage controls were way more pervasive and drastic. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:888112637] in Penn State... [t:75860061]...</cite> <quote><cite>MildlyIrkedOwl posted...</cite> <quote>The Nazis gained power by promising voters to alleviate a German economy mired in depression while also restoring German cultural values, reverse the provisions of the Treaty of Versailles, turn back the perceived threat of a Communist uprising, put the German people back to work, and restore Germany to its 'rightful position' as a world power,". This all from the holocaust museum. The key word here is not socialism, it's "national". They opposed everything traditionally socialism and instead preached a fundamentally undemocratic nationalistic agenda. Privileges for aryans, concentration camps for others.</quote> Nothing about nationalism, totalitarianism, or tyranny disqualifies one from being leftist. While true they opposed Leninism/Bolshevism, it's false to say they opposed socialism. They didn't. They called themselves socialists and their government was arranged to be a planned collectivist economy with heavy influence over private industry, much like most socialist countries have. Because fascism is just a derivative of socialism. <cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>The existence of price controls doesn't make it any more socialist than the USA, though, either.</quote> Price controls in the USA are socialist in concept yes, but Nazi Germany's price/wage controls were way more pervasive and drastic. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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