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Topic	Imagine literally believing that everything came from nothing
CircleOfManias 09/17/17 5:49:00 PM #36:	EpicMickeyDrew posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... C_Pain posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Uhh isn't it the theists who believe that? The Big Bang theory states that in the very beginning the entire universe was condensed into a tiny ball of incredible energy, which then expanded. Theists believe a deity created the universe through waving a magic wand and poofing it into existence from nothing. where did the condensed universe come from god exists outside of the parameters of science and the universe so he can do whatever he wants It didn't come from anywhere. It always existed in the sense that time started at its expansion. "Before the beginning" is an invalid concept here, like trying to rewind a VHS tape beyond the very beginning. That's it. There isn't any further back to go. Yes but before the beginning the VHS tape was created. Something created the very start of the VHS tape. @weapon_d00d816 A better analogy is it's like asking what's north of the north pole. Time, by definition, is the direction of increasing entropy. The beginning is 0 entropy, a singularity. The end is complete entropy, a uniform field of nothing that results after the heat death of the universe, and time becomes meaningless as at that point everything is static. Unless there's such a thing as negative entropy, "before the Big Bang" is a meaningless thing to refer to. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park <cite>CircleOfManias posted [p:886782105] in Imagine li... [t:75785533]...</cite> <quote><cite>EpicMickeyDrew posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Uhh isn't it the theists who believe that? The Big Bang theory states that in the very beginning the entire universe was condensed into a tiny ball of incredible energy, which then expanded. Theists believe a deity created the universe through waving a magic wand and poofing it into existence from nothing.</quote> where did the condensed universe come from god exists outside of the parameters of science and the universe so he can do whatever he wants</quote> It didn't come from anywhere. It always existed in the sense that time started at its expansion. "Before the beginning" is an invalid concept here, like trying to rewind a VHS tape beyond the very beginning. That's it. There isn't any further back to go.</quote> Yes but before the beginning the VHS tape was created. Something created the very start of the VHS tape. @weapon_d00d816</quote> A better analogy is it's like asking what's north of the north pole. Time, by definition, is the direction of increasing entropy. The beginning is 0 entropy, a singularity. The end is complete entropy, a uniform field of nothing that results after the heat death of the universe, and time becomes meaningless as at that point everything is static. Unless there's such a thing as negative entropy, "before the Big Bang" is a meaningless thing to refer to. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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