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Topic	How are people still dumb enough to fall for nationalism?
Fam_Fam 09/17/17 10:14:36 AM #53:	s0nicfan posted... Fam_Fam posted... If it was religious, then why are most of the people that they kill Muslims? Because they're not Muslim enough. Or sunni shia sectarian conflict which has been going on literally since Muhammad died. I mean, isis literally says they kill us because we're not followers. Everything else is just western speculation. However, those people ARE muslims, and they DO embrace Islam, just a version with some changes. So it's disingenuous to say its Muslim vs. non-Muslim. ISIS lies, you can't take everything they say at face value (same thing with any government / group). They murder opposition forces in order to exert dominance in the region and to control the resources / politics of the region. There IS tons of intra-religion violence, and ISIS is a major perpetrator of it. They are not just fighting non-believers, as they state their mission is. It's again, a ruse in order to gain political power, and Western violence in the Middle East is what helps fuel them in gaining more recruits. People are like yeah, the West are assholes to Muslims in the Middle East! And they aren't wrong about that. ISIS uses that anger in order to bolster their numbers and promote their own interests. Note that ISIS leadership arent the ones killing themselves. They recruit these angry peopel and send them to their deaths/arrests while they get power at home. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:886758777] in How are pe... [t:75777733]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>If it was religious, then why are most of the people that they kill Muslims?</quote> Because they're not Muslim enough. Or sunni shia sectarian conflict which has been going on literally since Muhammad died. I mean, isis literally says they kill us because we're not followers. Everything else is just western speculation.</quote> However, those people ARE muslims, and they DO embrace Islam, just a version with some changes. So it's disingenuous to say its Muslim vs. non-Muslim. ISIS lies, you can't take everything they say at face value (same thing with any government / group). They murder opposition forces in order to exert dominance in the region and to control the resources / politics of the region. There IS tons of intra-religion violence, and ISIS is a major perpetrator of it. They are not just fighting non-believers, as they state their mission is. It's again, a ruse in order to gain political power, and Western violence in the Middle East is what helps fuel them in gaining more recruits. People are like yeah, the West are assholes to Muslims in the Middle East! And they aren't wrong about that. ISIS uses that anger in order to bolster their numbers and promote their own interests. Note that ISIS leadership arent the ones killing themselves. They recruit these angry peopel and send them to their deaths/arrests while they get power at home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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