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Topic	How are people still dumb enough to fall for nationalism?
NINExATExSEVEN 09/16/17 8:33:05 AM #37:	Dash_Harber posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... And what's the alternative to nationalism? Extreme globalism? So on one hand you have nationalism which bonds people together and gives them a sense of identity and belonging. My country my people first. Done right you get countries like Japan. While not perfect, they're still a testimony that it can be done right. On the other hand you have globalism which strips you of identity and belonging slowly by muddying the lines between what it means to be French and why should France be for the French instead of everybody? Eventually your country gets striped of its original identity and history and your land doesn't belong to you anymore. I'd take nationalism any day over shitty globalism. Literally, slippery slope argument. I haven't seen a good argument for it, at least from a moral standpoint. Every single one is a logical fallacy. Nationalism is ultimately destructive because it purports that there is something inherent in your country that makes it superior to others. That is destructive in two ways. First, by encouraging xenophobia, you are cutting yourself from relationships with other countries that can be incredibly helpful and symbiotic. Second, you are telling people that their country is already perfect and that they don't need to question or grow. That leads to total stagnation in your population and you end up getting surpassed by everyone else. You can partake in globalism when it comes to trade and simply working with other countries. But there is no argument that you can use to prove that globalism in the form of mass immigration doesn't change the identity or culture of the host country. Every western country in Europe that's receiving mass immigration is losing its ethnic and cultural identity. Whether you like this or not it's happening. So I don't support isolationist nationalism on the world stage, I simply support the refusal of mass immigration in order to preserve identity and culture. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0 <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:886700389] in How are pe... [t:75777733]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>And what's the alternative to nationalism? Extreme globalism? So on one hand you have nationalism which bonds people together and gives them a sense of identity and belonging. My country my people first. Done right you get countries like Japan. While not perfect, they're still a testimony that it can be done right. On the other hand you have globalism which strips you of identity and belonging slowly by muddying the lines between what it means to be French and why should France be for the French instead of everybody? Eventually your country gets striped of its original identity and history and your land doesn't belong to you anymore. I'd take nationalism any day over shitty globalism.</quote> Literally, slippery slope argument. I haven't seen a good argument for it, at least from a moral standpoint. Every single one is a logical fallacy. Nationalism is ultimately destructive because it purports that there is something inherent in your country that makes it superior to others. That is destructive in two ways. First, by encouraging xenophobia, you are cutting yourself from relationships with other countries that can be incredibly helpful and symbiotic. Second, you are telling people that their country is already perfect and that they don't need to question or grow. That leads to total stagnation in your population and you end up getting surpassed by everyone else.</quote> You can partake in globalism when it comes to trade and simply working with other countries. But there is no argument that you can use to prove that globalism in the form of mass immigration doesn't change the identity or culture of the host country. Every western country in Europe that's receiving mass immigration is losing its ethnic and cultural identity. Whether you like this or not it's happening. So I don't support isolationist nationalism on the world stage, I simply support the refusal of mass immigration in order to preserve identity and culture. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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