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Trumble posted...

If they lacked even a self-defense, let alone offensive, capability, they would never have been able to take the actions that they were attacked in retaliation for.

Stop pretending Israel has ever been the innocent party. They never have. The means by which they were attacked in some cases, where civilians rather than military / government were targeted, were not okay, but it's also EXACTLY what Israel themself do so it would be hypocritical to consider Israel innocent but their various opponents guilty. Not to mention Israel does that to a much greater scale.

Israel needs to be demilitarized and its government given a huge shakeup, similar to Japan after WW2. In time, perhaps defence can transition from a third party to a purely defensive military capability of their own. For now, though, Israel cannot be trusted with even a single bullet.

Israel got invaded by 4 countries literally the day it became an independent nation. The Palestinians and surrounding nations may not have agreed with Israels establishment, but they lost territory because they started a war. They could have just accepted it and tried to work things out for the better back then.

if Russia ends up losing territory because of the war in Ukraine they dont deserve to have that handed back to them either