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Chev427BB posted...

Thanks for the history lesson

I know what led up to all this, I'm not arguing how or why this happened because I know all of that happened and I don't disagree with you that it happened. There's been plenty of violence and unrest from both sides that led up to this and I fully recognize that and agree that it happened.

I'm not saying all Palestinians are terrorists either, or that they deserve to die for the crimes of the minority that are Hamas members. I see what's going on in Gaza and it's truly awful, but I also see that all this bloodshed on both sides could've been avoided if Hamas was dealt with before they became as big of a threat as they are today.

Much of the humanitarian aid that's gone into Gaza over the years has been confiscated by Hamas in order to build up their military capabilities. Pipes meant to provide Palestinians in Gaza with clean water were ripped up by Hamas and used to build their rocket arsenal. By these actions and more, Hamas had made it very clear they're not interested in a peaceful solution.

Actually, Hamas in the past has been open to a two state solution, but it was shot down by Israel every time. Either way, Hamas is no longer trustworthy, they were voted in and betrayed their People, they 100% need to go. There have been offers and solutions of peace, and almost every time ,when it was so close to being a reality, Israel was the one to back out or do something to prevent the deal from going through (such as breaking a ceasefire.)

The innocent people of Palestine are the ones paying for the crimes of Hamas.. how is that fair? how is that acceptable.. They did not vote for Hamas.. At least not Hamas as it is, and the current population of Palestine is 40% children, the last time a proper election took place was over 15 years ago, most of which are probably dead by now, so those who live there now, dont share the same opinions of those from 15 years ago, and again, Hamas was not considered a terrorist organization when first voted in to power.

Israel does have to defeat Hamas, Israel does not need to massacre 100k+ civilians to do so, which if they go through with the ground assault, it will make the current casualty numbers look like bread crumbs. There are other methods that dont result in half of the homes in the gaza completely destroyed leaving 500k people homeless.

It's not like Palestinians can just leave even if they wanted to.. Not only are they poor, and with no food or water.. Israel has blockaded them and do not allow them to go anywhere without special permission from Israel, and they pretty much never give them out. They are essentially kept prisoner there unable to leave even if they wanted to. (I will admit, I am sure many of them dont want to leave, it is their home. If some foreign army came to my house and said I had to leave because they wanted to bomb the neighborhood and refuse to even give me money to live somewhere else.. I would be pretty devastated.