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willythemailboy posted...

Because every time someone posts this crap their "solution" to the conflict always includes policies they know full well will result in giving Hamas more weapons. Every Fucking Time. You're not fooling anyone with this shit.

Firstly, we are not politcal or military experts, it is not really our job to come up with a proper solution.

Though there have ben some suggestions , but it seems the IDF shills are keen on using the legendary hamas as a convenient excuse to deny them once again.

In fact it seems that Hamas is used as an excuse to permit Israel to do whatever they want in this conflict even if it goes against all morals and human decency.

The World Leaders and Military Commanders around the world I am sure are more knowledgable, but of course as we all know, most of them have their head up Israels ass so they wont be willing to help Palestine by seeking and implementing a proper solution.

Don't worry, You're not fooling anyone with your shilling either

The best solution I have, is a 2 state solution with a 3rd party acting as an intermediary to assist in building trust relations between Israel and Palestine and preventing or squashing any clashes between the two, and it would have to be a neutral party, not one with cater towards either Israel or Palestine.

I am sure the world leaders can come up with something better though, considering it is their area of expertise.

I will re-iterate of course Hamas must be dealt with, but it is quite obvious, Israel is doing it in a way that does not negate casualties regardless of whether or not you think it does and /or that they have the right to inflict as much retribution as they want as punishment.

If the results of this conflict ends with over 100k + Palestinians Dead and 200k+ Wounded (Possibly Permanent life damage), That would be considered a massacre. and they will not have solved anythingn, all they will have done is plant the seeds of hatred for future generations.

Than of course the cycle will repeat itself in the future.
FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

What we are arguing over is who has to be the one to finally turn the other cheek and stop the cycle, and I think its unrealistic for the Israelis to do that when Hamas is kidnapping babies from their homes. I do put the blame squarely on Hamas for one reason and one reason only.

than you are being willfully ignorant because it has been explained to you over and over ad nauseum.
Israel has been mistreating Palestinians long before Hamas Existed so therefore the responsibility lies with them to treat Palestinians like proper human beings with basic human rights instead of keeping them in an open air prison and stealing their resources so they can sell it back to them at extortionist prices.

You are once again excusing israel and saying because hamas did this, Israel doesnt have to play by the rules and they can go full apocalypse on palestines ass... hell fucking no.... that's just filling blood lust and having crime done to you does not give you the right to do crime on others.

Hamas does not equal Palestinians and Israel needs to stop treating them as such because all tehy are doing is manifesting the lie into the truth. I dont think its unrealstic to ask Israel to stop treating them like animals.

If they put down their guns and stop fighting, the conflict is over. Even if Israel is as bad as you say it is (its not) its too small of a country to risk further damage to its reputation by having MLK or Ghandi like protests with accusations of Apartheid while calling itself a democracy. They arent stupid.

except we both know that simply is not true... the conflict is not over because Israel will continue treating the people of palestinians like animals... the current fascist government in charge of Israel cares about nothing but their own selfishness and greed.

no one is asking israel to put their weapons down, they are just asking them to stop shooting children in the face with them. Hamas must be defeated, we dont need 100k or more dead palestinians in order to do that. As we both know that will just restart the cycle by planting seeds of hate for future generations.

If Israel puts down its guns, and Hamas doesnt, were still talking about dead Israeli civilians and rocket attacks from Gaza.

Thats the problem.

So thankfully no one is asking them to do that, we are just asking them to have a shred of fucking human decency and try not to slaughter tens of thousands of innocent civilians, put them in prison camps, and treat them like vermin year after year.

I already stated that Hamas must be defeated, but not with a massacre.