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Atralis posted...

The increasing number of Asian students and the decreasing number of white students has changed perceptions of fairness regarding affirmative action.

Affirmative action throughout most of its history has involved white people discriminating in favor of certain minorities by raising their chances of admissions to schools even if that means lowering the odds of admission for white students.

But its just different if the people that are controlling the levers of power are lowering the odds of groups other than their own. Do non Asian groups have the right to lower the odds of admission for Asian students in order to achieve some balance? How much? How can you argue it isn't racial discrimination if people from a racial minority are having their odds of admission slashed for no other reason than that they are lumped into "Asians"?

Conservatives have been trying to stop affirmative action for decades. It's only recently that they switched to the whole "It's hurting Asians" argument to get more support. But admissions for all minorities, including Asians, have gone up in the last 5 decades. The only admissions that have gone down were white people.

emblem-man posted...

Just a reminder that in general, most colleges and universities dont use affirmative action because most schools accept pretty much everyone who applies. Selective universities are a small slice of what college is in America. More people attend Texas A&M and the University of Central Florida than attend every Ivy League institution combined. Hell, it's been banned in California for like over a decade I believe

Eh... It's not accurate to say they accept pretty much everyone. Plenty of students still get rejected. They just accept a ton more students than Ivy League schools do.

Affirmative Action has been banned in California since 1996. And Black and Latino admission fell off a cliff right after it happened. Schools had to take new approaches, like weighing the socio-economic disadvantages of applicants. After that, admission diversity picked up again. So I imagine we'll have to see the same thing on a national scale. Schools develop systems that try to even the playing field without affirmative action. But with no oversight, I can definitely see some schools going back to being 90%+ White.