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ellis123 posted...

Many old RPGs from the era had a similar combat system. And having carryover stuff is more a roguelite thing than a roguelike thing, though that matters little for what we're talking about as Mystery Dungeons tend to have you playing as the literal some character and there is a non-trivial chance that your stuff isn't going to be completely gone regardless.

No, many didn't. And those that did were often roguelikes. There's really only 3 RPGs from which all other RPGs stem from, Ultima, Wizardry, and Rogue.

And fixing a main character into the story of the game doesn't disqualify anything. These things are just narrative tools to provide exposition for the game. If you removed all the external stuff and story portions from Pokemon mystery dungeon, you'd have essentially easy Rogue but with less options for your characters.

ellis123 posted...

Having an area with friendly NPCs is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about having an actual substantial amount of area space devoted to having a world outside of the dungeon. Like in PMD there is a lot of story and space devoted to the town in which you live in, compared to Rogue's "lol, go gettum tiger" nothing.

Rogue is fairly primitive in what it did. Wizardry 1 can also be very much described as "lol, go gettum tiger" but still had the World Outside the Dungeon

It was just also a very primitive World outside the dungeon.

More advanced games found ways to alter the pacing of the game by adding things like the hub so that it's not just pure dungeon the whole time but that doesn't take away from the fact that the core game mechanics are all the same.