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Sad_Face posted...

To reiterate bsp's point in a more abstract manner, the objective is to find a community where you find people of similar interests, goals or values. Meetups are a quick method of accomplishing this. From there, in a community, you will interact with others, build up social skills, and eventually the opportunity to pair up with a girl will present itself.

In any case, you don't care for this and you say you're thriving anyway, so you don't need this advice. That being said, bsp is making decent points but he's making a bunch of poor assumptions. A lot of guys struggling have hobbies centered mostly in gaming, very male dominated, and in addition they have underdeveloped social skills. Yeah, you can tell them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and get better hobbies, but people are continually receiving less exposure to new experiences and guys are finding refuge in the gaming/discord world.

We have a societal problem at large and telling guys individually to "pull themselves up by their own bootstraps" and they're the problem just isn't efficient. This is why platforms like Tate and Fresh and Fit gain so much attention; they acknowledge the changes in societal trends and offer guidance on how to be competitive.

Yep pretty much, the cynical nature of their theses can be critiqued but they at least address certain things

IceCreamOnStero posted...

Fresh and Fit and people like them provide hollow advice because they miss the point. Stuff like getting fit are good for you because they are judt plain good for you in and of themselves, and being satisfied with yourself is crucial to your happiness. Instead, all the advice rounds back to the core issue, which is encouraging you to seek validation from others.

Its why "blue pill" advice isn't helpful either, it gives into that desire instead of addressing it

People need validation from others, so this isn't helpful, either. Humans are social.