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cuttin_in_farm posted...

I feel like the group of guys that are being ignored are the guys who are overly considerate.

I really doubt this poster is concerned that something bad will happen to him.

Hes concerned about negatively affecting the womans day.

If you think guys are only worried about their own egos when making advances, I think it just illustrates the disconnect between what folks think the issue is.

For a lot of guys that are genuinely nice and try to be considerate, they wont approach because they dont want to escalate anything negative. Be it the woman being creeped out or her feeling uncomfortable.

The obvious problem is that these guys also cant discern signals since women sometimes have to fake signals for security. Like, how many women will smile back at a guy just because its natural or to avoid mean mugging someone.

These guys typically also lack experience, so theres no previous data to refer to.

And all they get is go to bars. Which will 9 times outta 10, not help them at all.

I agree with this too. Things are complex.

Also, I don't advise just going to bars for guys who need experience and maybe some social learnings. I always advise to try Meetup events. Itvis a great way to meet men and women that share similar interests, and potentially form friendships, and allows for relationships tonform as well. I have seen it work for plenty of introverted guys. I also met my fiance this way as well.