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Topic	If given the option, which recent US presidential election would you flip?
Kenri 06/17/23 5:38:41 AM #144:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... In their minds theyre not abandoning their ideals, they straight-up dont believe the Democrats have ideals at all, and see the hell Republicans want as a way to force the Democrats to reform. Remember when Trump started gaining power and people assumed that the impending GOP blowout would lead to a reformed GOP? Theyre basically that. These situations don't look analogous to me? The latter situation was mainly leftists and centrists hoping the GOP would coalesce against Trump's general bigotry; they wanted that to happen before he won, though. An analogous situation would be, I dunno, republicans hoping for democrats to turn on Bernie and move closer to fascism in response, or something. I think a better explanation is probably "these people didn't abandon their ideals, because they never actually had any" --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:974214691] in If given t... [t:80475064]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite><quote>In their minds theyre not abandoning their ideals, they straight-up dont believe the Democrats have ideals at all, and see the hell Republicans want as a way to force the Democrats to reform.Remember when Trump started gaining power and people assumed that the impending GOP blowout would lead to a reformed GOP? Theyre basically that.</quote>These situations don't look analogous to me? The latter situation was mainly leftists and centrists hoping the GOP would coalesce against Trump's general bigotry; they wanted that to happen before he won, though. An analogous situation would be, I dunno, republicans hoping for democrats to turn on Bernie and move closer to fascism in response, or something.I think a better explanation is probably "these people didn't abandon their ideals, because they never actually had any" --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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