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Topic	If given the option, which recent US presidential election would you flip?
HeroicCrono 06/15/23 11:00:41 PM #107:	v_charon posted... I'm just trying to picture someone a person who voted for Trump over Hillary going to vote for Bernie instead; it's a bit hard to believe that someone would swap votes and vote for someone way further to the left than the person they already apparently thought wasn't close enough to the center. Unless you really just believe Hillary loses because she's a woman, which I guess maybe someone like that exists? I again attribute it to people not knowing how bad Trump would actually be and not taking him seriously. I think if people who abstained from voting in 2016 had the foresight to know what would happen, they'd have voted for her. The time for the political center is over, at least in terms of what that might have once meant. The Democratic Party is basically the center now. I much prefer further left than what the establishment offers, but I still feel like it's the only way to win elections in this country. People aren't on a single line from left to right however much centrists may believe that. Hillary had lots of problems with corruption, lack of ideas about what she would change in office, scandals, and her directly insulting voters. She was the establishment candidate in a year in which voters wanted change. --- This is Red Sox 777 on a mobile phone. <cite>HeroicCrono posted [p:974187710] in If given t... [t:80475064]...</cite> <quote>v_charon posted... </cite><quote>I'm just trying to picture someone a person who voted for Trump over Hillary going to vote for Bernie instead; it's a bit hard to believe that someone would swap votes and vote for someone way further to the left than the person they already apparently thought wasn't close enough to the center. Unless you really just believe Hillary loses because she's a woman, which I guess maybe someone like that exists? I again attribute it to people not knowing how bad Trump would actually be and not taking him seriously. I think if people who abstained from voting in 2016 had the foresight to know what would happen, they'd have voted for her.The time for the political center is over, at least in terms of what that might have once meant. The Democratic Party is basically the center now. I much prefer further left than what the establishment offers, but I still feel like it's the only way to win elections in this country.</quote>People aren't on a single line from left to right however much centrists may believe that. Hillary had lots of problems with corruption, lack of ideas about what she would change in office, scandals, and her directly insulting voters. She was the establishment candidate in a year in which voters wanted change. --- This is Red Sox 777 on a mobile phone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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