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TopicJoker was such an overrated, garbage-tier movie.
hockeybub89
05/10/23 9:57:55 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
Because my point is directed at people who act like Joker is a commentary on mental illness in general, but again what you're saying means the message is essentially "help mentally ill people because if you don't one might kill you" which is a horrible message when you're trying to speak generally about mental illness.

But your point is moot anyway because he's obviously supposed to be a sympathetic character.

You could argue Jeffrey Dahmer was mentally ill and failed by society, but telling people "any mentally ill person could potentially be pushed to be Jeffrey Dahmer" is not only untrue, but entirely fucked up to say when so many people already have views that mentally ill people are dangerous.
So we shouldn't teach dark truths because some viewers will be too stupid to have a nuanced opinion on the mentally ill?

I absolutely think society does nothing to prevent some mentally ill from falling through the cracks and turning into big problems. I'm not sure what the movie said about that that's wrong. Did it need a disclaimer to remind everyone that most mentally ill people will never kill anyone?

We don't know who could be Jeffrey Dahmer. We need to help all mentally ill people because it's right, but it also will help prevent the minority that may become the crazed killers of the world.

And maybe the movie did fail in some ways because I didn't find Arthur sympathetic, but it's probably because the use of DC IP told me who Arthur was going to become. A lot of horrific people have sad backstories. It doesn't make them sympathetic to me. I just see all the ways people could have not exacerbated the problem.

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