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Shadow_Don posted...

Nobody here is complaining about farmers getting subsidies. Im just saying that those people out in Wisconsin or wherever can pipe the f*** down if they are getting mad about debt relief for students.

Your logic for this doesn't hold up at all. Refer back to my previous posts on why (tl;dr food production is a national necessity, going to college is not necessary for the majority of the populace). In addition, you can't use the "we need scientists, doctors, and engineers" as an excuse because most people who go to college don't get degrees with in the intention of going into those fields. These are by and large the ones that academic institutions have exploited to inflate the tuition prices. And as I mentioned before, the market for lawyers is saturated due to so many people finishing a degree but not knowing what they wanted to do with their lives.

Shadow_Don posted...

I understand that farmers are the most essential of essential workers but that really doesn't matter. The point was that there are a lot of professions that require college degrees that are critically important to our society and its a bad idea to let those professions go into shortages because the debt crisis is too big.

How would this occur? Just because some of us are saying too many people are going to college doesn't mean we want no one to go to college.

Regarding the underlying problem of the expense of college, I just don't know where you think you are going to take this conversation.

Gonna echo cuttin's point here.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Same logic with forgiveness. People are complaining about predatory practices. But the solution has nothing to do with fixing what the complaints are. So its hiding behind a legitimate issue to get a bailout.

This is why I brought up the underlying problem of the expense of college. So you can understand how it came to be so it helps give perspective on why people are against the loan forgiveness. For some it's shallow "If I can do it, you can do it too", for another it maybe "Most people do not need to go to college to have a functioning society so why should we be paying for it", and for others "It doesn't solve the problem to begin with; forgive everyone's loans now, and in a decade we'll be back to the same problem of saturated markets where most can't find a job with their degrees and are heavily crunched by their debt".