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I'm part of a few anime-adjacent fan groups that have gotten pretty crazy since the recent release of a new model/generator/etc that does like 10x better on anime-esque art than previous generators did. It's made me see (and take part in) a lot of AI art discussions recently so I also have a lot of random stuff on my mind about it but I'm not sure I can put it to words very well.

In general, I think it's a pretty good thing? There are many processes that people do that require artwork of some sort that would be much easier to do if you could just request artwork from your computer. Someone who designs fliers, or webpages, or makes video games, or creates youtube thumbnails, or etc etc. In the same sense that some artists may feel pushed out by AI, other non-artists that use artwork for other uses are now enabled by not having to either also learn art (lots of effort) or track down an artist to work with them (organizationally challenging, may be expensive)

darkmaian23 posted...

what are people supposed to do for work?

Something other than art, I guess? Alternatively: the value of like, paintings and such doesn't really come from the image depicted in the painting, so that's still valid. Or you can use AI art to help in your own artwork. I have a friend who likes drawing characters but hates drawing backgrounds and now he just generates the backgrounds with AI. I think there will definitely be a shift somewhere in related professions in the coming future but it doesn't strike me as particularly disasterous.

darkmaian23 posted...

How do we better ourselves?

No reason you can't continue to do it as a hobby. Chess is a massively popular game, even getting growth in the past few years, despite computers being significantly and objectively better than the best humans.

darkmaian23 posted...

Images and voices can already be generated with OK realism, and in time they will be perfectly real. Video and 3D modeling are being worked on. You'll soon be able to fabricate news and criminal evidence that is indistinguishable from reality. Our legal system and society at large aren't prepared for that.

I definitely can sympathize with this point, though. The concept of fake "proof" (either in a legal sense or just to show someone that something happened) definitely exists nowadays, with say something like photoshop, but there is certainly a lot more potential for better and easier deception coming along with this technology and people will need to get used to this somehow. I hope there is a better way to resolve this than just not believing anything you don't see in person but, well...

darkmaian23 posted...

Another negative social aspect is the diminishing and devaluing of human creativity: already people are claiming that they "painted" or "drew" an AI image, often one generated with a common prompt that they changed a word or two for.

Most of the people doing this I think would not be involved with creative visual art in any way were it not for the AI. So why not let them have some sort of input into the creative process and see what happens? It's obviously not the same as actually drawing, but as someone who has tried generating a bunch of art there is definitely a certain level of self-expression in the prompt design, settings tweaking, filtering through the results for good looking ones, etc. Well, obviously there is, or everyone generating would just make exactly the same stuff. That said I do think people should not try to pass off AI generated art as stuff they drew themselves (or vice versa I guess lol)

darkmaian23 posted...

There has even been at least one case of somebody taking what an artist was drawing in a live stream and having an AI "finish" the piece.

This is pretty scummy but it's not like stealing other people's art and pretending it's your own is a new concept. This is just a new way of doing it. I don't think it's any better or worse than any other method