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Jakyl25 posted...

Only humans have reason, and thats the dividing line between man and beast

you say pain is bad but that implies a universal morality outside of the rights we grant as a society. Where does the concept that pain is bad come from if you dont believe in natural rights?

and reason has nothing to do with the ability to sense and experience and feel

Jakyl. I speak the same language as you and we come from comparable cultures. Please stop pretending this is a foreign concept. It really looks like you reasoned yourself so deep into a philosophical rabbithole you can't see the light anymore. I don't have to believe in a concept of natural rights or God granting morality or anything to look at an animal in pain and think "Huh, I wish it wasn't suffering".

Who fucking cares at the ultimate root cause of where that belief comes from? I'm not even going to entertain that fucking argument anymore. Your apparent slack-jawed amazement and incomprehension that people have this belief and would then come to different conclusions than you personally leading them to enact laws is as much bullshit as I can tolerate now

Accept that the answer to the question "why are there laws against animal cruelty?" is "people have empathy and don't want animals to experience unneeded suffering (*caveats **kwargs)" and that you lack that empathy[?] and let's be done