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TopicMCU General 10 - I Am Groot
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08/25/22 6:30:26 PM
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What *REALLY* caused this is production timing. MoM went into production with this idea of making Wanda the villain, and at the time they clearly did not know how well WandaVision was going to turn out and how cathartic and endearing her story of grief would be. WandaVision *could* have gone a different way and ended with Wanda on a more villainous path - the pieces were all there. That may be why they ended it the way they did with her leaving. But that's really not at all the story they told or the person they built her up to be. The reason there is such a gigantic disconnect between MoM and WandaVision is because they took two completely different approaches to writing her and did not put in the time and effort to get these lined up.

The result is that she's fantastic as a monster in MoM individually, but does not have any consistency with WandaVision - the connection is just straight up broken.

At this point, I have to ask. Why doesn't anybody seem to care about this? Is everybody just turning off their brain and enjoying these movies as dumb popcorn flicks? Quite frankly - that's never how I've seen the Marvel movies. I've always been very impressed individually with each movie but more importantly the consistency in the world building, character arcs, and power levels as characters show up in all kinds of different places. It's one of my favourite things to see in fiction when they do this well. Which is a bit funny considering one of the only people I've seen criticize this Wanda problem so heavily is Brandon Sanderson on his Intentionally Blank podcast - and he's known for essentially having an MCU of his own in how all his novels are connected....

Anyways - Wanda and Vision have always been a bit derided by fans of the movies- Age of Ultron, Civil War, and Endgame all had people saying "I don't care about these guys, they barely had any time at all". But I never felt that way. I always liked their little bit pieces in the story - I liked that the MCU would spare just a bit of time to have these smaller characters that aren't the main focus of the story - we can just check in with them now and then in different properties to see how they've changed or grown. That's one of the strongest aspects of the MCU - that makes it such a cut above basically any other franchise, and why everything in Infinity War / Endgame was so meaningful. It wasn't just mindless action with a bunch of action figures I know the names of - these characters all mean something to me after seeing everything gone through.

But if the MCU is just going to throw anything this in the trash now - what's the point of continuing to care? It's dipping further and further into multiverse shenanigans which inherently creates a risk of "none of this matters", but they are showing in many ways that they don't really care at all anymore.

Any individual movie in the past had flaws you could point to, but I think Phase 4 movies and the shows have been much worse. It seems clear to me that they are pushing these projects out, and where before I always felt they were doing their best and there were just a few aspects that weren't quite up to par despite best efforts, now I feel like it's more like "just make it good enough and don't worry about the parts that are bad". In Black Widow, they really do not care at all in maintaining believability that Natasha could survive any of that (plus the villain was garbage). In Falcon and the Winter Soldier, they just have such dumb stuff like having them bust Zemo out of prison immediately for no reason after trying nothing - it seems like they just don't care about maintaining a semblance of continuity.

WandaVision was nearly perfect except for a few glaring issues they could have fixed if they just took a bit more time ironing them out. TFATWS, Loki, and Hawkeye are swimming with issues despite the parts that are good. Is this the way that most projects are gonna go?

No Way Home was awesome, so I'll probably catch individual movies that catch my eye, but continuing to follow every project and seeing how it all ties together - this seems to be something I just shouldn't care about anymore.

So anyway. Multiverse of Madness. I enjoyed it thoroughly. It ruined the MCU forever and I hate it.

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