LogFAQs > #965985067

Anyone who thinks the Steve players have started winning from nowhere are dead fucking wrong. Steve was originally laughed off as a mid tier at best (certainly in part to that infamous Izaw video that gets memed to oblivion nowadays) and the true believers in the character that stuck with him were quietly labbing the character out while tournaments were still on pause for almost a year since his release.

A year is a long time to push a new characters meta. So these Steve players didnt come out of nowhere. In fact, acola specifically was a top rated menace on Smashmate (online Japanese ladder that many top pros use over there) before he ever attended a single offline tournament. He didnt start winning out of nowhere, and to suggest he is is actually really disrespectful to him because it sounds like youre writing his skill off because of the character he picked. Same goes for the other Steves. Some of them were actually respected players before he even came out (DDee being the biggest example with his Pokmon Trainer, and Yonni was a decent Luigi player).

Its honestly funny seeing whos bitching the loudest about this character (and Kazuya). Its a mixture of the hold forward and win and massive camper crowds. Just people who dont learn the matchup and piss and moan when they lose to a character that requires a lot of studying to beat because theres so many different avenues for skill expression with him.

This ESAM video summaries things pretty well honestly: https://youtu.be/CZwfU0ZhCWo

Anyways Smash Twitter has been annoying af about Steve and Kazuya for months so the Gimvitational results are just going to make it even more insufferable to read

Anyways I do wish the game had a few more patches before they stopped working on it. I think conceptually Steve and Kazuya are fine, though some will disagree with me. I just have no idea why they are so fucking heavy. They should be glass cannons, but just functionally end up being cannons instead. It just skews the risk reward more heavily in their favor because they can blow you up off 1 or 2 interactions if you fuck up badly enough, but live forever. Meanwhile Sephiroth (imo the most balanced FP2 character - he recently won his first tournament, Battle of BC 4, as KEN from Japan exclusively played him in top 8) is light as a feather.