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TopicElden Ring Mafia Topic 7: Consecratered Snowfield
Panthera
03/26/22 5:48:10 PM
#461:


Sheep007 posted...
Okay, I've caught up on the walls of text and I have some thoughts, but first...

Panth, let's say I'm not lynching Chris today and you're not gonna be getting enough others onboard to take him down. I'm a nice guy, I like winning, I don't wanna lynch claimed protection nor a potentially game-winning town player. Who else would I be voting today?

I haven't put nearly as much thought into the non-Chris scum as I did into the Chris matter but I'll try to work through it here. I'm coming down to Ulti, Corrik, Sultan, IGCD, Marth and you. I think the others not in that group are for obvious reasons based on the game and the walls but I can clarify if need be. I'm okay with you living for a day to build a better read than I ever really had on Bat. My scenario for Ulti to be scum was based on a scum Isquen due to his defense of the latter, but now that I've moved off that position I don't have much problem with him. I think I saw you not being a fan so I would be open to hearing a case on this one if you have it, this is a "the one potentially scummy thing I saw now looks invalid" clear rather than a "this is clearly town to me" clear.

I'm going to go out on a limb now and guess I've missed the mark on Marth. Chris has made two references to going along with him on voting me and I think that's one more than there would be as teammates, especially when the latter was just kind of bringing it up out of nowhere as a sort of joke protesting that it led to wall mode. After a night's sleep to clear my head I can see his behaviour towards me fitting more into a town mindset, I do like that he was trying to coax Chris into following him on me even if I don't like the Chris actually doing it part.

So narrowing down to Corrik, Sultan and IGCD. Sultan has felt very on brand to himself and I don't mind his third party meta thing when Chang had already raised the matter. He's been pretty inconsequential though and while I agree with you on his SBell interaction (at least I think that was you) not being likely scum/scum I don't find it fully definitive. Corrik has been pretty weirdly muted this game and kind of content to coast on the early Crescent weirdness giving him something to dwell on endlessly. Originally I figured he was doing his common "This is confirmed, see you tomorrow, actually I'm back now and I'll start doing other stuff more and more" routine but it seems like he's not really moving on too strongly. I could definitely see him being scum having an off game here and going through the motions of replicating the town qualities that make people roll their eyes at him.

IGCD bugs me purely for the fact that the alleged clear people have on him is posting about Ulti, Chris and Crescent being scum supposedly is too much poking the bear for him to do as scum, but the thing is no one has cared about it at all so that doesn't hold water. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to just offer up a bold statement knowing no one will focus on it just to look like he was willing to go there. That said his claim is a bit weird and seems like it has a lot of potential to trip itself up so leaving him for now could be fine.

I guess Ben exists too but it seems like we're just kind of rolling with him as third party right now for whatever reason.

So I guess I'd say you should vote for Corrik, maybe IGCD. Could hear arguments on Ulti. But really you should be voting for Chris. I could be persuaded on those three but Chris is the one I already feel confident on.

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