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UltimaterializerX posted...

Like wtf does that deck do against aggro now?

Depends what aggro. Probably just beats most aggro TBH.

Like...if people try to bring secret mage back, I'm pretty sure quest odd still dumpsters secret mage. Secret mage runs a lot of 4/3s and 3/2s and 2/3s. A 0 mana hero power that can deal 3 damage to a minion (stage 2 reward; not even the finished quest) kinda crushes that deck. Like...when I was experimenting with an un-refined list right after united in stormwind came out, I think I had somewhere in the range of 70%-100% winrate against secret mage? Just clear their board and they lose. Secret mage can even slow down quest completion with counterspell, but that doesn't matter cause they have no board and you'll finish the quest eventually.

Looking at the matchup chart on the old VS report, Odd Quest Hunter has...62% winrate against aggro druid, 64% winrate against secret mage, 61% winrate against murloc shaman, etc. And a 53% winrate against quest warrior (maybe quest warrior gets a small edge there after the nerfs since it's already close and QWar is getting the smaller nerf?)

Not that it can never be beaten by aggro--odd paladin is supposed to have an advantaged matchup into Odd Quest Hunter--probably because a 3 damage hero power isn't that great at killing multiple 1/1s. Shadow Priest...has a disadvantaged matchup against quest hunter right now, but barely (46% winrate) but I could see that flipping around with the nerfs--Shadow Priest has a lot of burn from hand so they are pretty resilient to having their board cleared, so maybe that becomes a slightly advantaged matchup.

But quite a few aggro decks have a lot of 3 health minions and need a board and the first two subquest rewards giving a 3 damage hero power that costs 0 and can hit minions just lines up really nice into those decks.

And there's a collection of other decks that odd hunter would just naturally do well against; decks that rely on their opponent not running flare to clear ice block probably still struggle against quest hunter, as well as controlly Priest decks like Reno Priest and Big Priest, if those make a come back.

Like...if there's a lot of those decks and non-paladin aggro decks in the meta, I'm pretty sure odd quest hunter continues to be fine.

The decks that could really shut out odd quest hunter are like...heavy armourgain druid decks (the worst matchup for odd quest hunter is and has always been quest druid). Another thing that could mess with Odd Quest Hunter is combo decks that don't rely on ice block and haven't been slowed down (stuff like Pillager Rogue jumps to mind). And...theoretically Odd Paladin could be a thorn for odd quest hunter, but odd paladin has a 23% winrate into quest warrior, so if quest warrior remains popular at all, nobody's going to play Odd Paladin to counter Odd Quest Hunter.

Just...as big as the nerf is, I don't really think that decks that rely on having a board are suddenly going to become a general counter to Odd Quest Hunter. Quest Hunter only needs to play 2 spells for their hero power to become a 2 mana darkbomb, and 4 spells for their hero power to become a 0 mana darkbomb. And the rest of odd quest hunter's deck is filled with removal. Building a board (with some exceptions) tends not to work that well against them.

Decks that beat it are still going to be mostly either uninteractive decks--burn decks and combo decks that don't need to keep a board, where the only thing Odd Quest Hunter can do is try to kill them first--against that kind of deck, slowing down the final quest reward will obviously cause quest hunter to lose more games. The other kind of deck that will continue to beat them is hardcore armourgain decks (where yeah, slower quest completion will also matter cause it's a race against armourgain).

But I don't think board based aggro in general will become a sticking point for the deck. The deck packs a ton of removal and has the better long game.