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Topic	Whether you are for or against abortion
Vindris_SNH 09/15/17 9:47:22 AM #172:	@Asherlee10 Asherlee10 posted... Paragraph 1: I don't think you are correct about why murder is not permissible in our society. Murder is not permissible because it ends the life of someone with a right to life. Right to life is assigned based on personhood. This is why ending the life of someone in a coma is not illegal or morally impermissible. Ending the life of a person is a way of terminating their future as a human. I don't think any of our laws have anything to do with personhood. And I say "I don't think" because I'm honestly not sure. But is the word "personhood" mentioned anywhere in our laws regarding the protection of human life, or anywhere in our laws regarding abortion? Murder is wrong because you are denying a human being their future. If you're ending the life of a human vegetable who has a 0% chance to recover, you're not terminating their future, because they don't have one, because they're permanently braindead. The same cannot be said for a developing human life inside a mother. Asherlee10 posted... Paragraph 2: I think you are misunderstanding viability in this context. When we assign personhood or rights to a person, it is based on physical viability, not the actions they can take. That viability is related to: Can they breathe on their own? Can they digest food on their own? They are bodily functions, not actions you take. So personhood is based on viability? Why should a less developed human life have less value than a more developed one? Are infants less valuable than toddlers? Are toddlers less valuable than teenagers? Are teenagers less valuable than adults? A human is a human. Their current stage of development should not, in my opinion, determine whether or not they are granted the most basic right to life. Asherlee10 posted... Paragraph 3: Personhood and viability is the core of the abortion discussion. That is why it is still a discussion. But what I can tell you is that we do not assign right to life to beings who are not viable. Indeed. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:886646046] in Whether yo... [t:75774151]...</cite> <quote>@Asherlee10 <cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Paragraph 1: I don't think you are correct about why murder is not permissible in our society. Murder is not permissible because it ends the life of someone with a right to life. Right to life is assigned based on personhood. This is why ending the life of someone in a coma is not illegal or morally impermissible. </quote> Ending the life of a person is a way of terminating their future as a human. I don't think any of our laws have anything to do with personhood. And I say "I don't think" because I'm honestly not sure. But is the word "personhood" mentioned anywhere in our laws regarding the protection of human life, or anywhere in our laws regarding abortion? Murder is wrong because you are denying a human being their future. If you're ending the life of a human vegetable who has a 0% chance to recover, you're not terminating their future, because they don't have one, because they're permanently braindead. The same cannot be said for a developing human life inside a mother. <cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Paragraph 2: I think you are misunderstanding viability in this context. When we assign personhood or rights to a person, it is based on physical viability, not the actions they can take. That viability is related to: Can they breathe on their own? Can they digest food on their own? They are bodily functions, not actions you take. </quote> So personhood is based on viability? Why should a less developed human life have less value than a more developed one? Are infants less valuable than toddlers? Are toddlers less valuable than teenagers? Are teenagers less valuable than adults? A human is a human. Their current stage of development should not, in my opinion, determine whether or not they are granted the most basic right to life. <cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Paragraph 3: Personhood and viability is the core of the abortion discussion. That is why it is still a discussion. But what I can tell you is that we do not assign right to life to beings who are not viable.</quote> Indeed. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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