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TopicWhen do you think the 2008- economic troubles were over in America?
Sunhawk
09/07/17 2:04:42 PM
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Marvo Rocks posted...
Sunhawk posted...
I...had no idea.

But people are clearly exaggerrating. Things are no doubt substantially better in 2017 than they were in, say, 2009. I mean, are people with university-level educations still struggling to get min-wage jobs? No, they aren't. Are people barely able to eat and get by, month by month? No, unless they live in a generalyl very poor area. Look, stop messing with me.


Yes. People with good educations are still struggling to get decent paying jobs. People are still struggling to eat. Foodbank usage is at a record high. Continued cuts in the public sector means worse response times for emergency services, longer waiting times and worse service in the NHS, and more and more crimes being ignored by the police. There are housing shortages due to government cuts, meaning rents on existing properties get higher and higher, squeezing the budgets of families all over the country, and preventing millions of young people from leaving their parents homes. That's without even mentioning rising food and energy prices (which will likely get worse after leaving the EU).

Things are 'better' than in 2008 in the sense in that now we already know we're fucked, whereas back then we were still adapting. A lot of businesses, both small and large (BHS went out of business just last year), are struggling, causing a lot of people to either lose their job, or be put on a zero hour contract with minimal rights and no stability.

If things are 'normal' it's only because being utterly fucked is so familiar to many that it's become the norm.


Marvin, that's more Britain than America. It's nothing like that in America now, and hasn't been in a few years.

Also: you're clearly allowing your personal point of view to influence you...overly influence you. There are plenty in Britain these days with comfortable lives, and quite a few who are wealthy and doing very well. You're mostly talking about working-class people in 2017, and even then, what you're saying is an exaggeration.

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