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Duck-I-Says posted...

Not always. Picard almost blew up the ship with all hands when Nagilum commandeered it.

Fair enough, but the point is, most of the time, there was back up and no alternative.

Duck-I-Says posted...

She did not, actually, have to resurrect two dead crewmembers. She chose to with a blood sacrifice. It would be morally equivalent to if Q had allowed Picard to resurrect Tasha in exchange for killing Worf.

No it wouldn't. It'd be like if Worf died and Q came to Picard and a creature named Wosha showed up and Q was like, "Hey, I can bring back Worf and Tasha Yar by splitting Wosha". They also didn't die, they were still a part of Tuvix.

Tuvix wasn't born, didn't have a family, and was basically a scientific anomaly. Just because the crew liked him, didn't make him any more of a person. There is no 'it's like' equivalent, because no where in real life do two people cease to exist to create a new person.

Duck-I-Says posted...

She didn't stop anything, Chakotay had to storm in with a rifle to save him at the last second. She was going to let him die.

I have to watch it again. I seem to remember Seven commandeering the ship after she was out of commission, and she was unconscious when they realized that the Borgs were the aggressors.

Duck-I-Says posted...

You mean like a society that would use the technology create lifeforms in order to use them for bloodsport? What part of Hirogen society makes you think they'd live up to Federation standards for trading advanced technology?

So now you take a moral stance against holodecks being used for violence? I guess Worf, O'Brien, Bashir, the Dahar Master, Barclay, LeForge, Paris, Kim, etc all should be charged as well?

Another important thing here is context. The species nomadic hunting philosophy was literally leading to their extinction. Hindsight is great, but there was literally no way that Voyager could have known the holograms would become sentient (at least not more than any of the other crews any of the other times it happened). Had one of the planets the crews saved turned around and committed genocide (like any of the 80 billion rescue missions during TNG), Picard would not be responsible, even if they used technology to do it.

They trade technology all the time on the show (DS9 in particular, because they were part trade hub and part embassy). The point of that rule is so that Federation ships don't just land on any primitive backwater and arm them all with phase rifles.

Duck-I-Says posted...

That was pretty condescending especially since you didn't know my viewpoint on it.

I actually didn't mean to direct that at you, but I do apologize. That did sound condescending. My apologies.

Duck-I-Says posted...

Irrelevant to the morality of the situation. You're arguing that it's pragmatic to violate his rights in order to get him back on the line which your free to do, but it doesn't improve the moral optics of it. Hell there was a very relevant episode in TNG on a similar subject (see: Measure of a Man).

It really wasn't very close to Measure of a Man. It was a bad decision in hindsight, sure, but at the time that it happened, IIRC they literally believed that it would kill him (destroy his matrix). Also, they have wiped memories before (such as Data's child friend he was communicating with on radio that the Enterprise broke the Prime Directive to save).